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Re: mini-PC

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: mini-PC
Date 2025-07-18 22:28 +0200
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On 2025-07-18 21:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> Oh, some videos overload another one of my laptops (too small, Lenovo,
>> fanless) and my mini-PC MSI Cubi N aka acting server. I did not try on
>> the Compaq. Usually videos done at 4K and/or h265. Some youtubes
>> overload firefox on those machines and can't watch at full screen.
> 
>    Can you give me a pointer to some specs of your 'mini-PC MSI Cubi N',
> especially the CPU (brand, series, model, speed, cores)?

Brand is MSI. I think I bought it Nov 2016. It has an M2 type of nvme flash disk, but came with the hardware to install a laptop type rotating rust hard disk. It has no fan.

The specs I just posted detailed info an hour ago:

Isengard:~ # inxi -C -GSaz --za --vs
inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02)
System:
   Kernel: 6.4.0-150600.23.53-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
     v: 7.5.0 clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
     parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.4.0-150600.23.53-default
     root=UUID=<filter> showopts splash=verbose resume=/dev/disk/by-label/Swap
     verbose mitigations=auto
   Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.43 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm
     v: 4.20.0 dm: 1: GDM v: 45.0.1 2: SDDM note: stopped
     Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.6
CPU:
   Info: model: Intel Pentium N3710 socket: BGA1155 bits: 64 type: MCP
     arch: Airmont level: v2 built: 2015-17 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
     model-id: 0x4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x411
   Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 224 KiB
     desc: d-4x24 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
   Speed (MHz): avg: 480 min/max: 480/2560 base/boost: 1600/2400 scaling:
     driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave volts: 1.2 V ext-clock: 80 MHz
     cores: 1: 480 2: 480 3: 480 4: 480 bogomips: 12800
   Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
   Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
   Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx
     Integrated Graphics vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel
     arch: Gen-8 process: Intel 14nm built: 2014-15 ports: active: HDMI-A-3
     empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 00:02.0
     chip-ID: 8086:22b1 class-ID: 0300
   Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1
     compositor: xfwm v: 4.20.0 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: iris gpu: i915
     display-ID: localhost:10.0 screens: 1
   Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 509x286mm (20.04x11.26")
     s-diag: 584mm (22.99")
   Monitor-1: HDMI-A-3 mapped: DVI-D-0 model: Samsung T22C350 built: 2012
     res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92 gamma: 1.2 size: 531x298mm (20.91x11.73")
     diag: 547mm (21.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
   API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: mesa v: 23.3.4 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
     direct-render: yes renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 17.0.6 128 bits)
     device-ID: ffffffff:ffffffff memory: 7.44 GiB unified: yes
   API: Vulkan v: 1.3.275 layers: 1 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
     HD Graphics 405 (BSW) driver: N/A device-ID: 8086:22b1 surfaces: xcb,xlib
   API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Isengard:~ #

> 
>    I'm looking for a replacement for my wife's sort-of 'desktop' (Windows
> 10 laptop in a drawer with external dispay, keyboard and mouse) and I
> wonder what CPU I need.

This type of minipc can be bolted to a flat display (behind, on 4 nut holes they have), so that the footprint on a table is minimal. You may have observed this type of setup in banks and offices. Mine has both ethernet and WiFi.

I did not do this. I connected it to an external hard disk over USB3, which eventually grew up to 4 disks. Now it runs a software raid 6 with 8 hard disks instead. I would actually need a more powerful version. It draws minimal electricity.

> 
>    *My* current (Windows 11) laptop has an AMD Ryzen 5 5000 Series
> (System Information says: "AMD Ryzen 5 5625U with Radeon Graphics, 2300
> MHz, 6 Core(s)") which is fast enough, but I wonder what comparable
> 'mini-PC' CPU I would need. Some of the mini-PCs I see have normal CPU
> names, like "Intel Core 5", but others have meaningless (for me) names
> like 'N<some_number>'.


I'm not really a connoisseur of them. The idea is using laptop hardware, but in a tiny square box. Add display and keyboard. It is a neat idea for media servers (absolutely silent), or home or office computers, as long as the tasks are not cpu intensive. Then a fan would be desired. Not the thing if you are going to do video conversion, but perfect for browsing internet or light-medium office work.

Obviously, some come with Windows installed. I bought mine empty.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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