Re: Crowdstrike fiasco

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Crowdstrike fiasco
Date	2024-07-22 10:07 +0100
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On 21/07/2024 22:46, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> And so you had the interesting situation where, in Europe, you could buy
> your phone first, then decide which carrier to sign up to, whereas in the
> USA, you first chose your carrier, and then you had to buy your phone from
> them.
It didn't work that way in practice though.

My phone had to be bought from my supplier, because only then would it 
have WiFi Calling.

But think of all the other non legislated common standards that arose 
because people need common standards.
VHS
Cassette audio tape.
Metric threads.
in te end governments dont need to run these as industries,  merely work 
out which is the mostr common and ubi	quitous, and say 'this is te legal 
onbe'

You may recall the Government and big businesses supported X networking 
propcols. X400. X 25. That were destined to doom TCP/IP . That worked 
well didnm't it?

The point is that conservative governments regulate as little as is 
reasonably sensible, the left wing ones as much as they can get away with.

Back in the day the British Post Office and the German Deutsch 
Bundespost were both government run dinosaurs in charge of telecoms. The 
Post Office was split and British Telecom was privatised, and a 
regulator set up to try and ensure it did not anuses its monopoly.

But not in Germany, not until much later, where whilst the UK was 
getting broadband speeds with dozens of ISPS up in the tens of MBPS,. In 
Germany you got a supplied ADSL router from the German monopoly ISP, 
that might to a few Mbps on a good day.

This is all down to the fact that its not who owns or runs it, its down 
to how well a monopoly is *regulated*, that counts.

Conservatism accepts that de facto monopolies like railways, roads,. 
bridges, wires to your house, water to you house and sewage out of it, 
*are* de facto monopolies. And therefore need to be regulated to prevent 
abuse, but history has shown that state ownership   is just as bad as 
poor  regulation.

-- 
     “I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the 
greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most 
obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of 
conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which 
they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by 
thread, into the fabric of their lives.”

     ― Leo Tolstoy

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    Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-19 12:59 +0100
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    Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> - 2024-07-20 13:44 +0000
      Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:04 +0100
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          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:34 +0100
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            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 07:12 +0000
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              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-21 09:37 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-21 11:25 +0200
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 21:46 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-22 10:07 +0100
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                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-22 18:43 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 00:35 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-23 11:52 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-23 12:38 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-23 16:44 +0200
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-23 19:25 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-23 22:41 +0200
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-07-24 07:55 +0200
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:43 +0000
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-20 18:42 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-20 19:46 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-20 19:35 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-20 23:17 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-21 11:00 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-20 23:11 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 07:14 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-21 16:37 +0000
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:57 +0000
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-20 22:29 +0200
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            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 08:56 +0100
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 07:10 +0000
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-21 09:33 +0100
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 21:48 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-22 10:11 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 00:36 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-23 01:40 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 02:07 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-23 08:40 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-24 02:52 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-24 07:36 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-24 23:42 +0000
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