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Re: Crowdstrike fiasco

From D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Crowdstrike fiasco
Date 2024-07-20 22:29 +0200
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2024, Rich wrote:

> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 20/07/2024 14:44, rek2 hispagatos wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-19, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024, Woozy Song wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Curiously, when I made a post to Reddit linux group, it got deleted
>>>>> immediately. I thought they would be gloating that Windows got shafted.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm gloating! I repeatedly tell a potential customer to change from
>>>> windows, and I think so far they asked me for an offer and an opinion 3
>>>> times (they had 3 security incidents), and yet they have never purchased
>>>> my services and they keep running into these problems. I'm gloating so
>>>> much. Sadly I don't think they will ever switch from their beloved
>>>> Microsoft though.
>>>>
>>>> I do use them often as an example of what happens if you have a crappy
>>>> IT-manager so I do derive benefits from their incompetence though! =)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> +1 I hope this serves as a lesson.
>>
>> No, it wont.
>>
>> You dont understan middle management in a company.
>> The IT managers career is best served by spending shitloads of money
>> with a company like crowdstrike which offers impressive legal guarantees
>> in its contracts.
>> Not by implementing a policy with some 'nerdy operating system' that his
>> boss doesn't know how to use. And developing an IT department to service
>> and support it.
>
> You can tell those who have never worked with/in/near a large corporate
> bureaucracy or govt bureaucracy IT department.  Those who have never
> seen behind the curtain believe this will result in some kind of
> change.

Oh it definitely can lead to change. It is just up to you to be smart, 
manipulative, not-caring or bold to make it happen.

My favourite strategy when working a behemoths was to just say "f*ck you" 
and do what I wanted without telling any sr manager and it served me 
extremely well as well as my customers! =)

Then, when I became my own, I do grant that it is somewhat of an uphill 
battle at times, but that's part of the challenge and makes it feel better 
when you do manage to kick out Microsoft.

I recently managed to kick out Microsoft in favour of home-grown service 
based on classical physical servers, and it does give me immense 
satisfaction.

That being said however, it is not always easy, and many are the people 
who just swim along until they reach retirement age. But horses for 
courses as the saying goes! =)

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Crowdstrike fiasco Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2024-07-19 17:26 +0800
  Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-19 12:41 +0200
    Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-19 12:59 +0100
      Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Sirius <sirius@trudheim.com> - 2024-07-19 15:31 +0200
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-20 07:06 +0000
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Rob van der Putten <rob@sput.nl> - 2024-07-21 11:11 +0200
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-07-21 12:19 +0200
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-21 18:44 +0000
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 21:50 +0000
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Mark Shroyer <mark@shroyer.name> - 2024-07-22 13:37 -0700
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 00:31 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Mark Shroyer <mark@shroyer.name> - 2024-07-22 23:37 -0700
      Re: Crowdstrike fiasco John McCue <jmccue@hairball.jmcunx.com> - 2024-07-19 14:45 +0000
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2024-07-21 10:53 +0100
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-21 18:42 +0000
      Re: Crowdstrike fiasco "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-07-19 12:20 -0400
      Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-19 22:21 +0200
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-07-19 16:47 -0400
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-20 11:26 +0200
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-07-30 17:40 +0000
    Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> - 2024-07-20 13:44 +0000
      Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:04 +0100
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2024-07-20 18:15 +0200
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:34 +0100
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2024-07-20 19:18 +0200
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 07:12 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Michael Uplawski <michael.uplawski@uplawski.eu> - 2024-07-21 09:15 +0200
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-21 09:37 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-21 11:25 +0200
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 21:46 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-22 10:07 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-22 10:20 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Simon <SimonJ@eu.invalid> - 2024-07-22 10:28 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-22 18:43 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 00:35 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-23 11:52 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-23 12:38 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-23 16:44 +0200
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-23 19:25 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-23 22:41 +0200
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2024-07-24 07:55 +0200
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:43 +0000
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-20 18:42 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-20 19:46 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2024-07-20 19:35 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-20 23:17 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-07-21 11:00 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-07-20 23:11 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 07:14 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-07-21 16:37 +0000
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-07-20 17:57 +0000
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-07-20 22:29 +0200
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-07-27 02:12 -0400
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-27 08:56 +0100
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 07:10 +0000
          Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-21 09:33 +0100
            Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-21 21:48 +0000
              Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-22 10:11 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 00:36 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-23 01:40 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-23 02:07 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-23 08:40 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-24 02:52 +0000
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-07-24 07:36 +0100
                Re: Crowdstrike fiasco Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-07-24 23:42 +0000
        Re: Crowdstrike fiasco nobody@nowhere.invalid (Marc Olschok) - 2024-07-22 23:56 +0000
    Re: Crowdstrike fiasco "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-07-26 03:34 -0400

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