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Re: GUI pauses when on TTY

From Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: GUI pauses when on TTY
Date 2023-02-18 20:08 -0500
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"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

> On 2023-02-18 15:59, Rich wrote:
>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>> Yes, I am old school and like to work on a TTY whenever possible. But of
>>> course I need GUI browsers and other GUI stuff too.
>>>
>>> And before someone says, "Use Xterm in full screen", please don't. :-)
>>>
>>> My problem is that on MATE (MINT Linux) pretty much everything stalls
>>> once I switch to a TTY.
>> If you mean the shift+alt+Fx key to swtich to one of Linux's native
>> terminals, then this is expected.  The switch out of X and back to a
>> TTY is a suspend of X, meaning the entire X session is paused.
>
> AFAIK the GUI is not suspended. This behaviour is relatively new, I
> don't remember when it started. It affects multimedia.
>
>      You can run a long job, like a backup script, and it
>      should continue running non stop when switching to a TTY.
>
> The same toolset that is used to "detect who is at the seat" does
> it. Rationale is that it gives permissions to use the sound device to
> the person that is seated, meaning the person having the GUI. As when
> in tty mode no one has the GUI, there is no permission to use sound
> and things stop.
>
> This could be HAL/ConsoleKit/PolicyKit. Or could be the display
> manager doing it.

I did:

journalctl -f

I got this when switching to a TTY:

 pipewire[1514]: spa.alsa: hw:0,7: Channels doesn't match (requested 8, got 2)

Looks to me like something is redirecting sound production.

> The way to avoid this is not using the TTY, but an xterm.

Agree.  A terminal session is better than a TTY is so many ways.

-- 
Dan Espen

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GUI pauses when on TTY Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 02:07 -0500
  Re: GUI pauses when on TTY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-18 10:02 +0000
    Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 14:20 -0500
  Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-02-18 14:59 +0000
    Re: GUI pauses when on TTY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-18 17:59 +0100
      Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 14:35 -0500
        Re: GUI pauses when on TTY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-18 21:00 +0100
          Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 21:29 -0500
        Re: GUI pauses when on TTY The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-19 12:03 +0000
      Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2023-02-18 20:08 -0500
        Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-18 21:37 -0500
          Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2023-02-18 22:16 -0500
        Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2023-02-18 22:23 -0500
          Re: GUI pauses when on TTY Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-19 17:31 -0500
        Re: GUI pauses when on TTY "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-19 13:12 +0100
      Re: GUI pauses when on TTY marrgol <marrgol@address.invalid> - 2023-02-19 02:54 +0100

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