Re: printer purchases

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On 2025-08-09, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Aug 2025 08:10:45 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>
>> All those printers were postscript capable, only needing a PPD. And
>> those are compatible with Windows. Never had an issue with that.
>
> Nowadays we seem to have “driverless” printing, but I’m not sure how 
> that’s supposed to work? Maybe all the printers have standardized on 
> accepting PDF files or something ...

At least from what I have been able to determine, it means CUPS
rasterizes the images on the host and then sends the uncompressed
rasterized image to the printer.  Prior to "driverless", CUPs (or
the earlier system) would send PS to the printer (if the printer
could take PS or PCL).

Around 2000-2003, I could print a page from a web browser, have
first page in my hand within a few seconds, and then have the
rest of the pages usually as fast as the printer's paper path
could shovel the paper.  Now with CUPS driverless, it's somewhere
around 15 seconds before I see the first page and another 15-20
seconds or so per duplexed pair of pages.  Printing a 30-page
credit report can take several minutes rather than one or two.

My current system runs Devuan Daedalus on an AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
8-Core Processor, 64GB of ECC RAM, and a Brother HL-L2360DW
printer.  The host system itself is well over an order of
magnitude faster than the Alpha machine I used in 2000-2003.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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printer purchases Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2025-08-03 03:49 -0400
  Re: printer purchases c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 04:10 -0400
    Re: printer purchases Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-08-03 18:51 +0000
    Re: printer purchases Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-08-05 16:57 +1000
      Re: printer purchases Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 09:26 +0100
        Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 10:10 +0100
          Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-06 20:01 +0000
          Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 22:10 +0000
            Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 00:05 +0000
              Re: printer purchases c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-08 22:54 -0400
                Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 04:27 +0000
                Re: printer purchases c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-09 01:37 -0400
                Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:00 +0000
              Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:03 +0100
                Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:12 +0000
                Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 10:19 +0100
                Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-10 01:59 +0000
  Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-04 05:36 +0000
    Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-04 09:15 +0200
    Re: printer purchases Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 09:16 +0100
      Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 11:17 +0100
      Re: printer purchases Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2025-08-04 13:58 +0100
        Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 19:03 +0100
      Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 19:04 +0000
    Re: printer purchases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 12:40 +0200
      Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-04 11:50 +0100
        Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-04 15:12 +0200
          Re: printer purchases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-04 20:27 +0200
            Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 08:10 +0200
              Re: printer purchases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-05 12:26 +0200
              Re: printer purchases Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-08-05 05:59 -0600
                Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:12 +0200
                Re: printer purchases "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-08-06 12:38 +0200
              Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:15 +0000
          Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-04 19:09 +0000
            Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 08:10 +0200
              Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:13 +0000
                Re: printer purchases Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-09 03:49 +0000
                Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 04:36 +0000
                Re: printer purchases Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 09:12 +0100
                Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:08 +0100
                Re: printer purchases Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-08-10 03:19 +0000
                Re: printer purchases Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 09:43 +0100
                Re: printer purchases Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-10 09:45 +0100
                Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-09 11:31 +0200
          Re: printer purchases not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-05 09:15 +1000
            Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 08:12 +0200
              Re: printer purchases c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-05 03:48 -0400
                Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 11:23 +0200
                Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:49 +0100
                Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:19 +0000
                Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-05 19:29 +0000
              Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:42 +0100
                Re: printer purchases Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-05 15:14 +0200
                Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 14:54 +0100
                Re: printer purchases c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-05 19:38 -0400
            Re: printer purchases c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-05 03:45 -0400
              Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-05 10:54 +0100
              Re: printer purchases not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-08-06 08:20 +1000
                Re: printer purchases Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-06 00:01 +0100
      Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-08 22:06 +0000
        Re: printer purchases Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:17 +0100
          Re: printer purchases Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 00:33 +0100
          Re: printer purchases The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-09 11:00 +0100
            Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:02 +0000
        Re: printer purchases Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-09 14:04 +0000
          Re: printer purchases rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-09 21:15 +0000
          Re: printer purchases Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-10 01:56 +0000

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