Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over

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On 10/3/25 05:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 03/10/2025 08:54, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>> ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes:
>>>    Then you'd still run into the issue of figuring out how to tell the
>>>    supervisor chatbot to actually line up with what you want.  So in a
>>>    way, you might just be kicking the can down the road.
>>>
>>>    That said, a single chatbot still has a ton of headroom. For my
>>>    examples I used a generic one, not something trained on a particular
>>>    programming language, coding approach, or runtime setup.
>>
>> I think that’s the wrong way of looking at it. They aren’t trained on a
>> language as such; they are trained on a corpus of programs people wrote
>> in the language (and probably violating copyright in the process).
>> That’s why you see foolishness like using scanf to read a string: it’s a
>> strategy that’s well-represented in its training set.
>>
> It does seem to me that AI in general perfectly captures the idiocy, 
> misinformation and general incompetence of the 'average person on the 
> internet' . It epitomises 'we all say it, so it must be true' logic.

   Well, today's "AI" DOES learn from what's Out There -
   including all the serious mistakes.

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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
  Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-30 14:25 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-30 14:32 +0000
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-30 23:05 +0000
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-01 00:10 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-01 00:56 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
          Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
            Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-01 17:21 +0000
              Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-01 21:28 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-01 22:33 +0000
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                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
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                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-03 11:38 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-10-03 20:59 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
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                Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
    Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
      Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
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        Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
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