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Re: Best Linux for senior citizens?

From not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Best Linux for senior citizens?
Date 2019-08-28 23:40 +0000
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Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 23:45:34 +0000 (UTC), Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>
>> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
>>
>> As I said, there are TWO Linux drivers for this thing, both with all
>> appearances of working fine from any research on the web. I _did_ do
>> this research beforehand, and was quite confident that even if the
>> open-source driver couldn't be made to work, the proprietary one from
>> SamSung was there as a fall-back.
>>
>> The printer is a colour laser type, and prints built-in test pages
>> fine. With the open-source driver I could get it to work printing in
>> B/W (which I can do with any of my B/W laser printers that _do_ work
>> properly in Linux anyway, so that's not much help), but upon trying
>> in colour, the printer spits out pages with (always the same) garbled
>> text on them and shows an error.
> 
> What error?

Sorry, can't remember though no doubt I left a note somewhere. If I
get back to it and run out of things to try, I might start a
dedicated topic about the problem with the full details of what I've
tried and what were the results. For now I consider that I've got
more useful and more rewarding things to pump hours of time into.

>> I did a lot of messing about, trying variations of the driver's
>> authors instructions to compile and use old versions of ghostscript.
>> I started digging into the code, though it clearly wasn't going to be
>> an afternoon's work to understand SamSung's QPDL protocol to the
>> point of identifying bugs. Eventually I gave up and tried the
>> proprietary SamSung driver, spent an hour or two trying to get that
>> to print anything at all, failed. Gave up.
> 
> Are you using CUPS? There might be an option to activate colo(u)r.

Yes, activating it causes the problems with the open-source driver. I
don't remember the SamSung driver working either way. All other
options were fully explored too.

> You find the CUPS web interface at http://127.0.0.1:631 .
> 
>> Also I'm in Australia, and the strange variation of printer models
>> between countries adds another complication when researching some
>> brands (not my SamSung though).
> 
> I didn't know that besides from currency (110 vs 220 volts) there are
> differences.

It's very strange, not only do they often change the model numbers
between countries, but sometimes there are unique designs that don't
seem to have equivalents in the US even though they're branded by
american companies. I can't remember an exact example, but I'm
thinking of the cheap inkjet printers. They might just be well hidden
in the maze of model numbers I suppose, but I remember looking into
it closely when I was trying to adapt an Epson inkjet printer for
printing onto circuit board material (with the aim of a more reliable
DIY method for making double-sided circuit boards - didn't work out).

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