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Re: Best Linux for senior citizens?

From Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Best Linux for senior citizens?
Date 2019-09-21 10:18 -0400
Organization Wossamotta U.
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not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) writes:

> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 8/25/19 4:00 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And DONOTDONOTDONOT forget to set up their printer, or you
>>>> are going back out there!
>>> 
>>> At which point you discover that there is no Linux driver that works
>>> properly with it, and it's a new one that they proudly bought the
>>> other day. Then you're in trouble.
>> 
>> Been there done that, but a lot of years ago.
>> 
>> Now-a-days, you just fire up your web browser and go
>> get the ppd from
>> 
>>      http://openprinting.org/printers
>
> Jeeze don't I wish. Certainly it's the case a lot of the time, but
> the last printer that I tried to get working (Samsung CLP-610ND - not
> even new) has become a project put off indefinitely after a failed
> six hour marathon of determinedly trying to get either of two Linux
> drivers to work properly.
>
> And that's not the only recent story of failure. Printing with Linux
> tends to either just work, or just doesn't. The problem is the insane
> number of different printer models that are brought out all the time
> by manufacturers, usually without much thought for Linux. There are
> just too many for open-source drivers to be comprehensively tested
> and bugfixed by volunteers, so it comes down to chance as to whether
> they work or not.
>
> It sounds like you've had quite a streak of luck for some years now,
> or else I've been particularly unlucky...

With the exception of one used Lexmark laser printer I had, I've stuck
with HP laser printers over the years. (I got my first Laserjet back
when I was using an Epson MX-80 dot-matrix printer.) The Lexmark
understood Postscript, so it was easy enough to get it to work.

There have been times when not all of the features of the printer I had
were completely supported, but overall I haven't had problems with
getting any of them to work.

I don't remember when they started doing it (it was many years ago), but
HP put PPD files for their printers up for download and it was then
really easy to get their printers working. I think this was well before
hplip and then openprinting.org.

On the other hand, I've tried to help a couple of friends get Brother
laser printers working with Windows and wasn't able to. I don't know if
it was Windows or Brother that was at fault, but it didn't make me want
to use Windows or Brother printers. :-)

I've had my current printer for a while, so I don't know what things are
like now, and whether or not it would be safe to just buy another HP
when this one dies.

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Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 09:15 -0400
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-22 15:45 +0200
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 10:28 -0400
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        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-22 16:54 +0200
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-08-22 11:07 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-22 20:41 +0200
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Popping Mad <rainbow@colition.gov> - 2019-08-25 10:37 -0400
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    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-22 17:28 +0100
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      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-22 15:35 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2019-08-29 03:25 +0000
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-29 03:27 +0000
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2019-08-29 04:03 +0000
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-30 02:40 +0000
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2019-08-30 05:24 +0000
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 15:49 -0700
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-25 23:00 +0000
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-25 16:50 -0700
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-26 23:35 +0000
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-26 17:48 -0700
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 20:16 -0500
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                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 13:01 -0400
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              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-26 22:12 -0700
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                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-28 07:49 -0700
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-29 07:45 +0100
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-08-28 02:11 +0000
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                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-27 16:53 -0500
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 13:08 +0200
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              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-27 14:34 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-27 23:16 +0200
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 12:59 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-08-29 16:50 -0500
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-27 16:53 -0500
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-28 13:50 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2019-08-28 11:45 -0700
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-29 12:27 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-09-21 10:47 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-09-21 10:27 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-08-28 18:50 +0000
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-29 15:59 +0200
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-27 17:00 -0400
                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-28 14:23 +0200
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-27 23:45 +0000
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                Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2019-08-28 23:40 +0000
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-09-21 10:18 -0400
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-22 15:39 +0100
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 08:31 -0500
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-26 16:47 +0200
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      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-26 16:37 +0100
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        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-22 16:04 -0500
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-08-22 18:43 +0000
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          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-23 15:45 -0400
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-24 14:55 -0400
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-24 21:02 +0200
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-22 14:48 -0400
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-22 17:15 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-23 00:11 +0200
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 08:36 +0100
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 09:06 +0100
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 12:33 +0100
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 14:03 +0100
              Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-23 16:28 +0200
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 08:31 -0500
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> - 2019-08-26 20:35 +0000
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:25 -0400
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 08:31 +0100
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-08-23 03:54 +0000
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-23 01:05 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-23 02:04 -0400
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-23 01:59 -0500
        Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-08-23 03:06 -0400
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Dave <dboland9@protonmail.com> - 2019-08-23 07:27 -0400
          Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-08-23 16:35 +0200
            Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-08-23 18:05 +0100
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? "L.A. Rathbone" <please@replytolist.com> - 2019-08-25 22:23 +0000
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:01 -0400
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2019-08-26 08:31 -0500
    Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-08-26 13:04 -0400
      Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-08-26 17:49 +0000
  Re: Best Linux for senior citizens? Bobbie Sellers <bliss@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-08-26 09:45 -0700
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