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Re: naughty Python

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: naughty Python
Date 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
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On Thu, 1 Jan 2026 20:14:30 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> On 1/1/26 16:54, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
>> In alt.folklore.computers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>> On 01/01/2026 14:28, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> On 1/1/26 05:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On 01/01/2026 03:07, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>> On 12/31/25 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>> On 31/12/2025 19:21, c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've writ stuff with five or six levels of nesting
>>>>>>>>     but don't like it, usually if/then/else stuff. Oft re-did
>>>>>>>>     it later to be more easy to follow. IMHO
>>>>>>>>     readability/comprehensibility is as important as
>>>>>>>>     functionally correct code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 100% agree.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Often write little functions that are only called once. Merely to
>>>>>>> lexically separate atomic functional blocks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No idea whether the compiler/linker inlines them or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is nothing worse than making top level decisions followed by
>>>>>>> some nitty detail to detect some low level error.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> e.g. assume a call to allocate memory always works or the call
>>>>>>> will do the appropriate jump to a global error handler to abort
>>>>>>> things cleanly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The point of structure was supposed to be to elucidate program
>>>>>>> flow,
>>>>>>> not obscure it with elegant formally correct cruft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Agree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     As I've said before, I'm still quite fond of Pascal and write
>>>>>>     apps of various size in it (oft first proto-ed in Python).
>>>>>>     The structure is 'elegant', but you CAN carry it TOO far, to
>>>>>>     where it gets in the way instead of helping things.
>>>>>>
>>>>> My one and only  experience of trying to make Pascal do what was
>>>>> trivial in 'C' led me to resolve never ever to touch it again.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are trying to write - as it turned out I was - a disk driver
>>>>> in pascal, where a given sector may be a byte stream, a series of 16
>>>>> bit integers,  or a structure defined by thee first few bytes in the
>>>>> sector, you end up with a massive union that is so cumbersome it is
>>>>> almost impossible to read - let alone use.
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't Pascal have variant records?
>>>>
>>> IIRC it (Turbo Pascal. The amateurs language) had unions of some sort,
>>> but I would have needed about 100 to cover all cases and it was even
>>> then messy.
>> 
>> Turbo Pascal could do essentially all thar C could do (and do things
>> which were not strightforward in C, but this is irrelevant here).  And
>> do this in a very similar way, once you knew how Turbo Pascal
>> constructs worked.  If you really needed 100 variant record in Turbo
>> Pascal,
>> then you needed 100 unions in C.  If you could do this more simply in
>> C, you could do this more simply in Turbo Pascal too.
>> Given what you wrote, it looks that you simply lacked experience
>> writing Turbo Pascal.  In other words, you were unqualified to do the
>> job that you were supposed to do (write the driver in Turbo Pascal), so
>> you decided to do thing that you know how to do, that is to write it in
>> C.
>> 
>> IMO biggest drawback of Turbo Pascal was poor speed of generated code
>> (and size too).  For me deal breaker was fact that Turbo Pascal was
>> 16-bit and tied to DOS.  DJGCC gave me 32-bit integers and slightly
>> later I switched to Linux, so Turbo Pascal was not longer relevant for
>> me.  But if you were programming 16-bit DOS and did not mind poor speed
>> of generated code, than IMO Turbo Pascal was quite decent programming
>> language, quite competitive in expressivity to C.
> 
> Now there's Free Pascal. I'm not a Pascal programmer, but I admit I was
> impressed when I looked at what's in the package.

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                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:07 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:49 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 07:28 -0700
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                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:40 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:29 +0000
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                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:57 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:37 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:10 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:21 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:28 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:04 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 14:22 -0800
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                Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
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                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:27 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
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                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
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                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:30 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:04 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:30 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:40 +0100
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                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:33 -0800
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
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                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:51 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:38 +0100
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 19:21 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:26 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 23:20 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:20 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:34 -0800
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                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:47 -0700
                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
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                Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
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                Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
                Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
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                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
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                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
                Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
                Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 19:04 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:55 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:55 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:19 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 08:26 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:48 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:24 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:44 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:31 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 12:16 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 11:12 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 16:25 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:59 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:57 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 13:37 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:30 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:26 +0000
                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:06 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:24 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 23:10 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 00:22 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 21:00 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:24 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-08 01:00 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:27 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:29 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 10:02 +0000
                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:53 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:34 -0700
                Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 15:13 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 12:20 -0700
                Re: Naughty C♯ John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 11:40 -0800
                Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:20 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:36 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:09 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:36 +0100
                Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 -0700
                Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:04 +0000
                What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 15:15 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:10 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:59 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:54 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 01:40 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:30 +0100
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:49 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:47 -0500
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:23 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:34 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
                Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) sean@conman.org - 2026-01-09 00:23 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:17 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 18:59 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:26 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:34 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 08:24 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:06 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:50 -0500
                Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:03 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:11 +0000
                Re: Naughty C♯ Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-01-07 12:01 +0000
                Re: Naughty Java (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:09 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:31 +0100
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:04 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:25 +0100
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 15:47 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 09:20 -0800
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:10 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 23:28 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:14 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:23 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:57 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:24 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:14 -0800
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 11:03 -0800
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 09:00 -0800
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-07 12:23 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:01 +0100
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 20:55 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:58 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:48 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 20:17 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:29 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:21 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 18:13 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 19:48 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:17 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:01 +0000
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 07:07 -0500
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:05 -0800
                Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:32 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:38 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:33 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 15:00 -0700
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:52 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 19:51 -0700
                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-03 06:09 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:38 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 16:58 -0500
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 08:01 -0700
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:12 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:14 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:25 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:59 -0700
                Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:31 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 20:05 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:20 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:35 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:36 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-06 03:31 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:20 +0000
                Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 18:48 +0000
                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:02 +0000
                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 00:27 +0000
                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 02:09 +0000
                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 14:18 +0000
                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:40 +0000
                Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 22:23 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:17 +0100
                Re: Case-dependant file systems The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 13:36 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:05 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:15 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:02 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:13 +0000
                Re: Case-dependant file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:12 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 21:08 +0000
                Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 22:41 +0000
                Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 15:44 -0800
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:19 -0500
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:08 -0500
                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 20:07 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:17 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 00:06 -0500
                Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:30 +0000
                Re: language design, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:15 -0500
                Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:34 +0000
                Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:17 +0000
                Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:11 -0500
                Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:46 +0000
                Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:45 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:05 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:42 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:55 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:12 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:50 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:39 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:21 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 15:08 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 15:38 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:41 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 00:55 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:11 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:09 +0000
                The Egg (was: Re: naughty Python) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 01:54 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:10 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:39 -0500
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:51 -0700
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:34 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:12 +0000
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                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 11:46 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:28 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 21:50 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:37 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 01:15 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:35 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 20:02 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:23 +0000
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                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 10:30 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:00 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
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                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:23 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 04:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:24 +0000
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                Re: naughty Python "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-01-02 13:06 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 09:41 -0500
                Electronic calculators "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:57 +0100
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                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:57 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:07 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:36 +0000
                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 08:50 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 10:54 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-03 07:39 -0700
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:22 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:14 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:57 -0700
                Re: naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:34 +0000
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:47 +0100
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:27 +0000
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-03 14:24 +0100
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:08 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 02:53 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:24 +0000
                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 05:04 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:15 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:44 -0500
                Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:43 -0700
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 10:06 -0500
                Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 17:41 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:04 -0500
                Re: naughty Python Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-03 08:01 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:56 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:44 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:05 +0000
                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 15:27 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:21 +0000
                Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 02:12 +0000
                Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 03:15 +0000
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:25 -0500
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-01 23:35 -0500
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:35 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:13 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:46 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:58 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:03 +0000
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:34 +0000
                Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:54 +0000
                Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:19 +0100
                Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:26 -0500
                Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:17 +0000
    Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:27 +0100
    Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:34 +0000
    Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 09:53 -0800
      Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:37 +0100
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