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Re: X11 forks

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: X11 forks
Date 2025-12-31 19:54 +0000
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 12:09:58 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 31/12/2025 10:50, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> I don't really know if my hardware box does 3D or not. I don't have the
>> proprietary driver for the AMD video card, so it either runs slower or
>> some features are off. But this way I don't have to bother installing
>> external drivers.
>> 
>> I can play Tux Racer. I can play flightgear. I understand those two
>> games use 3D.
>> 
>> However, vmware complains that "there is no 3D available from the
>> host",
>> and thus, clients do not have 3D. I installed a virtual machine with
>> openSUSE Leap 16.0, which is wayland by default. There is no graphical
>> mode, it crashes. I forced "legacy" X mode, and it works fine.
> 
> IIRC there are various 3D shims that are more (or less) supported by the
> underlying hardware and drivers...
> 
> Direct-X? OpenGL?

Yes. We had problems with an app that was built with the latest, greatest 
Direct-X. It would fail mysteriously on machines with an earlier version.

This was years ago but at one point AMD Athlon machines didn't have the 
extensions Intel had added to their processors and a GUI would fail. 

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  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 06:27 -0600
    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:24 +0000
      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-24 19:08 +0000
      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-25 02:21 +0000
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:35 -0500
          Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-26 09:06 -0800
            Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-26 18:38 +0000
              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-26 11:53 -0800
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-26 23:15 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 22:49 -0500
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:52 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
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              Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-26 20:49 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 03:56 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-26 20:37 -0800
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-27 05:59 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 08:51 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 09:13 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 23:01 +0000
                X11 forks (was: Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 10:43 +0000
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                Re: X11 forks Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-12-29 18:14 +1000
                Re: X11 forks c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 03:28 -0500
                Re: X11 forks not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-12-30 07:30 +1000
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:33 +0100
                Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 08:47 +0000
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 14:46 +0100
                Wayland hardware requirements (was: Re: X11 forks) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 09:25 +0000
                Re: Wayland hardware requirements The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:12 +0000
                Re: Wayland hardware requirements not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-01-01 07:31 +1000
                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:19 +0000
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 11:50 +0100
                Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:09 +0000
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:48 +0100
                Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:59 +0000
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 02:51 +0100
                Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 02:33 +0000
                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 06:01 +0000
                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 03:10 +0000
                Re: X11 forks Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-01 04:04 -0600
                Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:10 +0000
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 14:28 +0100
                Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 14:00 +0000
                Re: X11 forks Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
                Re: X11 forks vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 04:15 +0000
                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:54 +0000
                Re: X11 forks John-Paul Stewart <jpstewart@personalprojects.net> - 2025-12-31 14:28 -0500
                Re: X11 forks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:43 +0100
                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 20:00 +0000
                Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:58 +0000
                Re: X11 forks rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 02:56 +0000
                Re: X11 forks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:45 +0000
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                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:55 +0000
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                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 12:54 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:52 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:11 +0100
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:35 +0000
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-27 01:05 -0500
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 08:59 +0000
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                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-27 22:11 +0000
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                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 20:12 +0000
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                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:16 +0100
                Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 03:49 +0000
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    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 13:32 +0000
      Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:51 +0100
        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:02 +0000
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