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On Wed, 31 Dec 2025 12:09:58 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 31/12/2025 10:50, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> I don't really know if my hardware box does 3D or not. I don't have the
>> proprietary driver for the AMD video card, so it either runs slower or
>> some features are off. But this way I don't have to bother installing
>> external drivers.
>> 
>> I can play Tux Racer. I can play flightgear. I understand those two
>> games use 3D.
>> 
>> However, vmware complains that "there is no 3D available from the
>> host",
>> and thus, clients do not have 3D. I installed a virtual machine with
>> openSUSE Leap 16.0, which is wayland by default. There is no graphical
>> mode, it crashes. I forced "legacy" X mode, and it works fine.
> 
> IIRC there are various 3D shims that are more (or less) supported by the
> underlying hardware and drivers...
> 
> Direct-X? OpenGL?

Yes. We had problems with an app that was built with the latest, greatest 
Direct-X. It would fail mysteriously on machines with an earlier version.

This was years ago but at one point AMD Athlon machines didn't have the 
extensions Intel had added to their processors and a GUI would fail.