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Re: Service startup errors

Date 2025-12-28 21:47 -0500
Subject Re: Service startup errors
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
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On 12/28/25 19:16, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2025-12-28, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> Or you could have looked further into the log with journalctl, and
>> seen the appropriate message there.
> 
> Not so simple. The journal from a system startup is about 4000 lines.
> Good luck finding something useful if you doni't know what to search for.

   And therein lies a problem ... "we make a log" is
   not REALLY good enough. Read any REAL system/error
   logs and while there is a lot of volume it is oft
   almost impossible to tell what actually happened
   or why. Too cryptic, too hard to tell "significant"
   from "crap".

   Of course Winders error messages ... "Sorry, there
   was an problem" ... is still MUCH worse.

   If you ever had an early Amiga then you'd remember
   all the "Guru Meditation" messages - MAYbe even
   worse than the Winders stuff :-)

   Developers seem to pref "terse" logs which, maybe,
   THEY can follow - but to hell with everyone else.

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  Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice kouya <kouyaheika@canithesis.org> - 2025-12-24 06:27 -0600
    Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:24 +0000
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        Re: Lubuntu vs. Xubuntu: Which Ubuntu flavor is right for you - my expert advice c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 21:35 -0500
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