Re: Another new PC for me!

From	vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.checkmate, talk.politics.guns, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Another new PC for me!
Date	2025-02-26 14:46 +0000
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On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:36:24 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<s7-dneww24B2uyL6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:13:50 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <9kednQ4oHKEAvCL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> Tahitian pearl wrote:
>>>> % wrote:
>>>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>>> Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the
>>>>>> Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core
>>>>>> i5. I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen)
>>>>>> quad-core Xeon.  Below I compare the new components to the 2023
>>>>>> build, and the reasons for my choices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CPU:  Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400)  In 2023 a
>>>>>> Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my
>>>>>> needs.  Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though
>>>>>> I remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores. 
>>>>>> The larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock
>>>>>> speeds, gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the
>>>>>> 12400, and that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a
>>>>>> zillion cores.  It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the
>>>>>> total system cost by only 10%.  And, who knows, maybe some day I
>>>>>> will do something that will utilize all the cores.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Motherboard:  Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag
>>>>>> Mortar WiFi)  Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards. 
>>>>>> The MSI board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a
>>>>>> try.  I perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI.  I
>>>>>> have no need for the extras that a Z790 board offers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RAM:  G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that
>>>>>> 32G is way plenty, and will be for a long time.  But in the spirit
>>>>>> of this PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I
>>>>>> decided to endow it with more RAM.  I thought about 64G, but that
>>>>>> just seemed ridiculous, for what I do.  The 48G compromise seemed
>>>>>> kind of fun and different.  The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in
>>>>>> the same spirit of custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does
>>>>>> officially support faster RAM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SSD:  Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same)  Plenty good.  I see no
>>>>>> need for PCIe 5, here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PSU:  Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold)
>>>>>> Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CPU cooler:  Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620)
>>>>>> Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers.  I might have bought
>>>>>> the Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble
>>>>>> and are no longer available.  The reviews that I read of the
>>>>>> Thermalright said that it was one of the best air coolers
>>>>>> available, and it's reasonably priced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Case:  Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same)  Has the jacks
>>>>>> that I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GPU:  Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070)  Both are far from state of the
>>>>>> art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older
>>>>>> games, that I do.
>>>>>>
>>>>> sounds like a nice starter unit
>>>> It's not an Acer but most of the stuff is produced by e-machines.
>>>
>>> stop making your replies like they're part of mine
>> 
>> So why did this end up in tpg and ac in addition to the Linux 'froups?
>> 
>> It confuses me.
>> 
>> That being said, it's nice to read about the system specs of a system
>> that has actually been built, rather than Feeb's 4-month trickle of
>> "it's almost done!  Just another two months, and it will be ready!"
>> 
> i didn't make this post ,
> i don't know why it's posted so many places , maybe you should ask the
> person that started it

Okay, I will:

chrisv:  Why?

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Another new PC for me! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-25 20:32 -0600
  Re: Another new PC for me! % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 19:45 -0700
    Re: Another new PC for me! Tahitian pearl <j63480576@gmail.com> - 2025-02-25 21:43 -0600
      Re: Another new PC for me! % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:13 -0700
        Re: Another new PC for me! % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:17 -0700
        Re: Another new PC for me! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-26 14:20 +0000
          Re: Another new PC for me! % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 07:36 -0700
            Re: Another new PC for me! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-26 14:46 +0000
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