Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: vallor Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.checkmate,talk.politics.guns,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Another new PC for me! Date: 26 Feb 2025 14:46:18 GMT Lines: 87 Message-ID: References: <9fusrj5r2ns0g1j5n54bsnaoqqk1pv9iv5@4ax.com> <9kednQ4oHKEAvCL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net TdSX3IGJBxUBxaBznaL2GAaIysVrzMLd5CQ0yILkblI/VDRb7H Cancel-Lock: sha1:mBZkxtXcj7q9rz2j8iwHuByLUVc= sha256:trH+Z9Vr7tSBxV+SWyGTp9jKYHeabJD5SI/Yj/nwZxk= X-Face: +McU)#<-H?9lTb(Th!zR`EpVrp<0)1p5CmPu.kOscy8LRp_\u`:tW;dxPo./(fCl CaKku`)]}.V/"6rISCIDP` User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Hmm4; 0a913ba3; Linux-6.14.0-rc4) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:686684 alt.checkmate:658625 talk.politics.guns:1709965 comp.os.linux.misc:65722 On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:36:24 -0700, % wrote in : > vallor wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Feb 2025 07:13:50 -0700, % wrote in >> <9kednQ4oHKEAvCL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com>: >> >>> Tahitian pearl wrote: >>>> % wrote: >>>>> chrisv wrote: >>>>>> Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the >>>>>> Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core >>>>>> i5. I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) >>>>>> quad-core Xeon.  Below I compare the new components to the 2023 >>>>>> build, and the reasons for my choices. >>>>>> >>>>>> CPU:  Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400)  In 2023 a >>>>>> Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my >>>>>> needs.  Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though >>>>>> I remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores.  >>>>>> The larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock >>>>>> speeds, gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the >>>>>> 12400, and that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a >>>>>> zillion cores.  It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the >>>>>> total system cost by only 10%.  And, who knows, maybe some day I >>>>>> will do something that will utilize all the cores. >>>>>> >>>>>> Motherboard:  Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag >>>>>> Mortar WiFi)  Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards.  >>>>>> The MSI board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a >>>>>> try.  I perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI.  I >>>>>> have no need for the extras that a Z790 board offers. >>>>>> >>>>>> RAM:  G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that >>>>>> 32G is way plenty, and will be for a long time.  But in the spirit >>>>>> of this PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I >>>>>> decided to endow it with more RAM.  I thought about 64G, but that >>>>>> just seemed ridiculous, for what I do.  The 48G compromise seemed >>>>>> kind of fun and different.  The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in >>>>>> the same spirit of custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does >>>>>> officially support faster RAM. >>>>>> >>>>>> SSD:  Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same)  Plenty good.  I see no >>>>>> need for PCIe 5, here. >>>>>> >>>>>> PSU:  Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold) >>>>>> Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC. >>>>>> >>>>>> CPU cooler:  Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620) >>>>>> Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers.  I might have bought >>>>>> the Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble >>>>>> and are no longer available.  The reviews that I read of the >>>>>> Thermalright said that it was one of the best air coolers >>>>>> available, and it's reasonably priced. >>>>>> >>>>>> Case:  Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same)  Has the jacks >>>>>> that I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel. >>>>>> >>>>>> GPU:  Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070)  Both are far from state of the >>>>>> art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older >>>>>> games, that I do. >>>>>> >>>>> sounds like a nice starter unit >>>> It's not an Acer but most of the stuff is produced by e-machines. >>> >>> stop making your replies like they're part of mine >> >> So why did this end up in tpg and ac in addition to the Linux 'froups? >> >> It confuses me. >> >> That being said, it's nice to read about the system specs of a system >> that has actually been built, rather than Feeb's 4-month trickle of >> "it's almost done! Just another two months, and it will be ready!" >> > i didn't make this post , > i don't know why it's posted so many places , maybe you should ask the > person that started it Okay, I will: chrisv: Why? -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc4 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "User Error: replace user and press any key to continue."