Re: The joy of Linux

Subject	Re: The joy of Linux
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From	"186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
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Date	2024-11-12 01:19 -0500
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On 11/10/24 10:03 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Nov 2024 19:44:38 -0500, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
>>   THESE days with fuel injection and smarter ignition
>>     and aluminum pistons you can likely replace those 200 sixes with a
>>     200 straight or V-4 and get the same or even better performance. But,
>>     for for the day ... the tough/simple/ez-service cast-iron solution.
> 
> https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a5041/
> performance-tests-first-drives-1965-ford-mustang-r-and-t-archive-drive/
> 
> They didn't deign to test the 6, only the 260 and 289 V-8s but
> 
> "The straight-line performance of the Mustangs we tried was about what you
> would expect. In all three versions, there was a tendency to lift the
> right rear wheel under hard acceleration but once underway the Mustang
> accelerated away at a brisk rate—the 289 4-speed getting through the
> standing quarter mile in about 16 sec, the automatic making it in about
> 17, a second slower, and the 3-speed 260 being about a second slower that
> that."
> 
> https://www.zeroto60times.com/vehicle-make/toyota-0-60-mph-times/
> 
> Most of the Yaris quarter mile times are in the 17 second range. The I4
> engine is a whipping 91 cubic inches (1.5 L). 2018 was the last year for
> the Yaris hatchback in the US. Even then the 4 door sedan was a rebadged
> Mazda 2.
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_GR_Yaris

   The "Mustang" was nothing but a Falcon chassis/engine
   with a 'sporty' body bolted on top.

   No especially great performance - but they LOOKED good !

> I'd love to get one of those but that's not happening in the US.
> 
> Looking back at the '60s and '70s is depressing when it comes to what we
> thought were cool rides. I had a '71 AMC Javelin rental that I thought was
> a classy way to get around Minnesota at 90 mph or so.
> 
> https://www.curbsideclassic.com/vintage-reviews/vintage-road-test-1971-
> amc-javelin-road-test-magazine-evaluates-a-regular-pony-car/
> 
> 360 ci and 16.08 in the quarter. A Prius might embarrass it stop light to
> stop light.

   Well, many EVs have GREAT torque ...

   But they're really no better, or even worse, in
   long-haul driving.

   Detroit cars, by and large, were not really "high
   performance" but "utilitarian' - get Joe consumer
   to work, to the market, to grandmother's house,
   at a bearable price.

> I don't think Moore's Law is applicable to cars but there is the same
> relationship when I compare my phone to hot computers of the past.

   More is involved with cars than with Moore's Law.
   It's always a price/performance/reliability thing
   with cars and newer ISN'T always better.

   And frankly the push to really short hoods just
   made 'em UGLY. Gimme a '34 Packard 12 any time :-)

   I'd decidedly consider a restored late 60s car - but
   it'd have to come from some state where there's not
   a lot of SALT being used (or in the air). That's just
   a handful of central/western states.

   Now to consider ... exactly WHAT kinds of extra IQ,
   likely using a Pi/Linux, would be appropriate to
   add to a late 60s vehicle ? I'd like better water
   temp/flow info, better oil-pressure monitoring,
   transmission oil temps, might be possible to get
   a fair view of brake-pad thickness/temp/status,
   at least some charts of exhaust temp/mix to
   facilitate finer-tuning. *I* want to be informed,
   but not Ford/Chevy/Vlad/Progressive/etc.

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Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:19 +0000
  Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:13 +0000
    Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-04 22:33 -0500
      Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 23:00 +0000
  Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-04 14:26 -0800
    Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 13:53 +0000
      Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-06 03:35 -0500
        Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 11:31 +0000
          Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 17:59 +0000
            Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:44 +0000
              Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:40 +0000
                OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-08 03:28 +0000
                Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:37 +0000
                Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-08 15:50 +0000
                Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 06:01 +0000
              Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:55 +0100
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              Re: The joy of Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-06 16:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:50 +0000
              Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 20:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 04:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 18:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-08 22:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 02:16 +0000
              Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 02:46 +0000
          Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 22:59 +0000
        Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 13:20 +0000
          Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 14:04 +0000
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              Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-06 11:14 -0800
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:18 +0000
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                Re: The joy of Linux Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-07 05:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:50 +0000
            Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:09 +0000
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            Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:17 +0000
              Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 19:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-09 20:37 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 02:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 02:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 08:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-10 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 19:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 03:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-12 01:19 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 07:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:19 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-13 18:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 00:59 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:50 -0500
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                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 01:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-14 14:16 +0000
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