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Re: The joy of Linux

Subject Re: The joy of Linux
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Date 2024-11-06 03:35 -0500
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On 11/5/24 8:53 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 04/11/2024 22:26, John Ames wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Nov 2024 13:19:25 +0000
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> But one has to ask what in fact a desktop OS is for these days.
>>
>> Any damn thing you please, no walled gardens needed, thankyouverymuch.
>>
>>> The 'home PC' is now a fondleslab, TV or smartphone.
>>
>> People have been nattering about "the death of the PC" for upwards of
>> twelve years now - and they're still here.
>>
> Yes, but they are no longer the goto for an IT illiterate consumer.
> 
> A desktop workstation is in use by people in business, by designers, and 
> by hard core realtime 3D gamers.
> 
> Everything else has gone touchy-feely-crappy.
> 
> That's changed the dynamic of 'what in fact a desktop OS is for these days'
> 
> I didn't mean there wasn't a need for one: Just that as desktops move 
> into more professional areas, they way they work doesn't need to be so 
> 'chrome and tailfin'
> 
> Microsoft is keeping the PC market alive by introducing new code that 
> wont run on old hardware. Apple is the same.
> 
> So the second hand market is flooded with dirt cheap PCS that wont run 
> win11 or whatever.
> 
> I think this will in the end drive some applications to run on Linux as 
> well as windows and OSX
> 
> Or windows will as someone else pointed out, be simply a certified WINE 
> interface.
> 
> The only thing that windows can do, but its a very important thing, is 
> to runs specialist 3rd party programs.


   You're not entirely wrong.

   'PCs' are heavily 'game' oriented now.

   With gigabit+ internet in many places MOST ordinary/biz
   users can get by with the "thin terminal" model. All the
   real work is done "out there" on some corps supercluster.

   Back to the 70s !

   Which makes them your masters/owners.

   But few think about that. Like, what could go wrong ?

   Alas this current, defective, paradigm means that
   even Linux/Unix servers and workstations get degraded
   by another notch in the big scheme of things.

   MIGHT be time to push into a "two worlds" paradigm -
   "cloud" -vs- "local".

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Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-29 04:56 +0000
  Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-10-29 18:35 +0000
    Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-30 00:14 +0000
      Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-10-30 01:24 +0000
        Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-10-30 02:00 -0400
          Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-10-31 02:20 +0000
      Re: The joy of Linux Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> - 2024-11-03 19:19 +0000
        Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-03 23:28 +0000
        Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-04 13:19 +0000
          Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-04 22:13 +0000
            Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-04 22:33 -0500
              Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 23:00 +0000
          Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-04 14:26 -0800
            Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-05 13:53 +0000
              Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-06 03:35 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 11:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 17:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:44 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:55 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:40 +0000
                OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-08 03:28 +0000
                Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:37 +0000
                Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-08 15:50 +0000
                Re: OT: (politics) [was Re: The joy of Linux] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-09 06:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:55 +0100
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:25 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:46 +0100
                Re: The joy of Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-11-06 16:43 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:31 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 20:10 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 03:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 04:12 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 12:43 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-08 18:56 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> - 2024-11-08 22:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-09 02:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 10:45 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-07 19:23 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-08 02:46 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-11-06 22:59 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 13:20 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 14:04 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 16:49 +0100
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:40 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:52 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-11-06 11:14 -0800
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:18 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:56 +0100
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-07 01:21 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-11-06 21:52 +0100
                Re: The joy of Linux Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-11-07 05:11 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-07 11:50 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:09 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 18:05 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-06 18:17 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-06 19:01 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-09 20:37 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 02:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 02:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-10 08:33 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-11-10 19:53 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 00:29 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-10 19:44 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-11 03:03 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-12 01:19 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-12 07:47 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:19 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-13 18:30 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 00:59 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-12 08:38 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-13 03:50 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-13 08:57 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-11-14 01:08 -0500
                Re: The joy of Linux Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-11-14 14:16 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:06 +0000
                Re: The joy of Linux The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-11-14 16:08 +0000
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                Re: The joy of Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-11-16 06:13 +0000
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