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Re: MX Linux has an old-school look and feel. Here's why it's so popular

From "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net>
Subject Re: MX Linux has an old-school look and feel. Here's why it's so popular
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
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Date 2022-08-18 20:20 -0400
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On 8/17/22 11:57 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 8/17/22 20:10, 25B.Z969 wrote:

>>
>>    IMHO, being systemd-free will be impossible within five years.
>>    It's too much of a chore, esp for a "free" OS. I suppose you
>>    can rail against that newfangled, dangerous "electricity" stuff
>>    and refuse to have it at your house, but ....  :-)
>>
>>    So, we need to find better ways of quantifying and qualifying
>>    what systemd is up to. Take the mystery out of it. We're not
>>    talking Winders here where MS has a vested interest in hiding
>>    what those registry settings do.
> 
> 
>      I thnk you are overly pessimistic about the eventual prevalence of 
> systemd.
>      Much of a chore?  Some people would disagree.  They don't hang
> about here though so I just have to say that many new versions have not
> added systemd.   If people are too lazy to look around for these system
> that do no used systemd then they might as well be using Windows or MacOS.


   You're looking at it from almost an 'ideological' perspective.
   Most see it from a 'practical' perspective - and a "pain-v-gain"
   equation is part of that. I'm not a "linux hobbyist", I make it
   work for a living. Systemd makes some annoying things a lot
   easier. I'm not going to write a word-processor every time I need
   to write a letter - somebody else did it for me.

   My main complaint about it is that the writers are *too
   ambitious*,...trying to cram too many functions into the
   thing. It becomes very difficult to debug something like
   that and soon even the writers lose track of how it all
   works, how tweaking 'X' affects 'Y'. This is where Winders
   went bad (well, ONE of the reasons it went bad).

   Systemd-less is, at present, more of a *reaction* than than
   a clear statement of need. Prove a need, prove the rationale.

   IF there are clear advantages to init.d then writers and distro
   creators WILL provide systemd-less systems long-term. I do not
   think that is going to happen however ....

   Sorry, that's just how I see it.

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MX Linux has an old-school look and feel. Here's why it's so popular Internetado <internetado@alt119.net> - 2022-08-09 08:34 -0300
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