Re: Taming The Data Destroyer

From	"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Taming The Data Destroyer
Date	2025-11-20 12:57 +0100
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On 2025-11-20 00:32, c186282 wrote:
> On 11/18/25 11:49, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-11-18 16:24, Ralf Fassel wrote:
>>> * c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
>>> |   In any case, newbies need to be CAREFUL - don't
>>> |   just cut-n-paste anything you find. If you're
>>> |   not sure - DON'T !
>>>
>>> But... but... the AI said it was ok to use that command! ;-)
>>>
>>> Your advice holds not only for newbies.  When I search for the solution
>>> on some "non-trivial" problem, sometimes I wonder what the magic
>>> incantation on some search result is - a new clever way to achieve the
>>> result, monkey-see-monkey-do copied from somewhere else, or simply
>>> nonsense (possibly in combination with #2).  More often than not it
>>> turns out to be the latter...
>>>
>>> R'
>>
>> I have found ChatGpt very useful to help me with solving problems with 
>> my 8 disk software raid 6 array. It does diagnose the problem 
>> correctly and generates the correct command line concoctions. Of 
>> course I check the lines, but they look correct, and do work.
> 
>    Until one melts your drive  :-)
> 
>    Of late I'd been doing a lot of stuff with 'ffmpeg'.
>    It's an all-purpose tool BUT to get what YOU want
>    often involves ten or fifteen CL flags and such
>    AND in a particular order. Plenty of 'examples' to
>    be found online - not all agree with each other.
> 
>    Basically you need the skills to put the evil eye on
>    such 'free' code BEFORE you run it, looking for that
>    little 'gotcha'. Look up those commands, their params,
>    the 'why', before you go too far. Being a computer jock,
>    even in the AI age, is a learned skill ... not something
>    Granny can just jump into.

And if you read the entire man page and study it, for version 3, say, 
then comes another version which has changes and some of the 
combinations you used now do not work or have changed. They are now at 
version 8.

I suppose that's the reason that openSUSE ships all versions from 3 onwards.


ChatGpt will happily try to get you a CLI that produces what you work. 
But it also fails, and after several cycles you get mad.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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                Re: Taming The Data Destroyer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-19 18:32 -0500
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                Re: Taming The Data Destroyer Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-20 22:53 +0000
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                Re: Taming The Data Destroyer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-19 18:23 -0500
                Re: Taming The Data Destroyer "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:41 +0100
                Re: Taming The Data Destroyer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-18 03:17 -0500
                Re: Taming The Data Destroyer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-18 12:12 +0000
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