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Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem

Subject Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
References <tse8sf$9i4$1@reader2.panix.com> <877cwl8cip.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
From "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net>
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Date 2023-02-14 00:27 -0500
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On 2/13/23 4:46 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:08:31 -0000 (UTC), vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>
>> Nothing I seem to do gets this to install. Apparently required IDE.
>>
>>
>> Similar issues with DOS and XP overcome by settiing SATA to ATA and UEFI to
>> Legacy in BIOS.
>>
>> Yes, the OS is old, but so is the laptop Vostro 3560, HDD Samsung SSD 950
>> EVO and SATA Hl_DTD+RW-GT60N
>>
>> https://icecat.biz/en-sg/p/dell/n08s5603/vostro-notebooks-3560-15530427.html
>>
>> Here is one search result that may apply/clarify
>> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-5-20399-0.html
> 
> Quote:
> 
> | I'm trying to boot a 3.4.12 or a 4.4.4 boot cd using a Dell optiplex
> | 745. I get "Can't find KNOPPIX filesystem, sorry." using 3.4.12 and
> | 4.4.4.
> 
> Sounds vaguely familiar. Did this happen on the first boot after the
> installation or still the installation process itself?
> 
> Must have been +15 years (between 2006 and 2008 I seem to recall) when I
> ran into that, installing from CD ROM. Before the days of ATA and UEFI.
> 
> I seem to recall the problem was that Knoppix insisted to partition the
> installation media! It stalled when it couldn't (well it's a CD ROM) and
> no key would abort it. May be my mistake because I didn't chose which
> disks to partition (because Knoppix should be smart enough not to try to
> partition the boot media).
> 
> After several attempts I noticed the CD ROM LED came on when it came to
> partition stuff, so I assumed there is the problem. Because it was
> mounted you couldn't just eject it.
> 
> Next installation attempt just before being prompted to partition I used
> a pin to unblock the locking of the CD/DVD drive and yanked it open. And
> now partition worked!
> 
> After that I ran into an error ("Missing boot media" or similar. So I
> inserted the CD again but Knoppix wouldn't try to mount it (not its
> fault). Luckily at that time TTYs were available. I recalled where the CD
> was mounted on and a "sudo mount /where/ever/" would mount it and then
> finish the installation, yielding in a fully functioning Linux
> installation.
> 
> But what a PITA!
> 
> If this was a bug in Knoppix, try a newer version to see if your older
> hardware is supported. Or try something else (Ubuntu, MINT...).

   I do remember some of those old Knoppix versions that
   completely intended to OWN the entire machine. Seems
   evil - but Knoppix was never really intended to be
   "installed" per-se - it's supposed to be on a bootable
   thumb or CD and be THE system.

   Knoppix is actually a pretty good Linux distro - has
   most of the bells and whistles you'd want. However
   these days there are a LOT of those and most work and
   play well with others.

   For an emergency thumb boot, I use the MX with the extra
   drivers. Takes care of almost anything. I highly rec
   MX for pretty much ANY use.

   I've been trying to get Plan-9 to install - but you
   quickly run into scary-sounding prose that suggests
   it also expects to OWN the entire machine. It was
   made for a 'different era' so that's not entirely
   unexpected. At this point I do not expect to be able
   to install it to a discrete partition GRUB can handle.
   MAYbe as a VM, maybe ......

   P9 is another one of those "Unix-ish" systems that are
   quite capable - but kinda out of the reach of M$
   lawyers. MIGHT be worth revisiting, modernizing ....

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Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-02-13 21:08 +0000
  Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-13 16:46 -0500
    Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> - 2023-02-14 00:27 -0500
      Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2023-02-14 15:35 -0500
        Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> - 2023-02-15 01:13 -0500
          Converting from U back to Deb (Was: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2023-02-15 19:48 +0000
            Re: Converting from U back to Deb (Was: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem) "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> - 2023-02-16 02:00 -0500
              Re: Converting from U back to Deb not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2023-02-17 07:25 +1000
                Re: Converting from U back to Deb "25B.R866" <25B.R866@noaaba.net> - 2023-02-17 23:27 -0500
        Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com - 2023-02-15 21:59 +0000

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