Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feed1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 05:27:21 +0000 Subject: Re: Knoppix 4 (Quantian .7) Can't find Filesystem Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <877cwl8cip.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> From: "25B.R867" <25B.R867@noaaada.net> Organization: toadfrog levitation Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 00:27:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <877cwl8cip.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Lines: 81 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.222.41.46 X-Trace: sv3-PRYGKvV4SVNSSLZ18I0T+Z1nGTkGh+txrQca8t9vOUPPc7xjQZyoi475JqgyxVkIP57OmdFIXW5mUFs!U5Zw9PVVpF/RQ8JuMHDR1A35gTAN44rOKllIm2uu5GaF2sdioX1yGjjtTpsqmaARK+qNvr//9k5k!+OgLgtJtEOCfhQcvI+0= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Received-Bytes: 4780 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:37040 On 2/13/23 4:46 PM, Andreas Kohlbach wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:08:31 -0000 (UTC), vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote: >> >> Nothing I seem to do gets this to install. Apparently required IDE. >> >> >> Similar issues with DOS and XP overcome by settiing SATA to ATA and UEFI to >> Legacy in BIOS. >> >> Yes, the OS is old, but so is the laptop Vostro 3560, HDD Samsung SSD 950 >> EVO and SATA Hl_DTD+RW-GT60N >> >> https://icecat.biz/en-sg/p/dell/n08s5603/vostro-notebooks-3560-15530427.html >> >> Here is one search result that may apply/clarify >> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/f/topic-3-5-20399-0.html > > Quote: > > | I'm trying to boot a 3.4.12 or a 4.4.4 boot cd using a Dell optiplex > | 745. I get "Can't find KNOPPIX filesystem, sorry." using 3.4.12 and > | 4.4.4. > > Sounds vaguely familiar. Did this happen on the first boot after the > installation or still the installation process itself? > > Must have been +15 years (between 2006 and 2008 I seem to recall) when I > ran into that, installing from CD ROM. Before the days of ATA and UEFI. > > I seem to recall the problem was that Knoppix insisted to partition the > installation media! It stalled when it couldn't (well it's a CD ROM) and > no key would abort it. May be my mistake because I didn't chose which > disks to partition (because Knoppix should be smart enough not to try to > partition the boot media). > > After several attempts I noticed the CD ROM LED came on when it came to > partition stuff, so I assumed there is the problem. Because it was > mounted you couldn't just eject it. > > Next installation attempt just before being prompted to partition I used > a pin to unblock the locking of the CD/DVD drive and yanked it open. And > now partition worked! > > After that I ran into an error ("Missing boot media" or similar. So I > inserted the CD again but Knoppix wouldn't try to mount it (not its > fault). Luckily at that time TTYs were available. I recalled where the CD > was mounted on and a "sudo mount /where/ever/" would mount it and then > finish the installation, yielding in a fully functioning Linux > installation. > > But what a PITA! > > If this was a bug in Knoppix, try a newer version to see if your older > hardware is supported. Or try something else (Ubuntu, MINT...). I do remember some of those old Knoppix versions that completely intended to OWN the entire machine. Seems evil - but Knoppix was never really intended to be "installed" per-se - it's supposed to be on a bootable thumb or CD and be THE system. Knoppix is actually a pretty good Linux distro - has most of the bells and whistles you'd want. However these days there are a LOT of those and most work and play well with others. For an emergency thumb boot, I use the MX with the extra drivers. Takes care of almost anything. I highly rec MX for pretty much ANY use. I've been trying to get Plan-9 to install - but you quickly run into scary-sounding prose that suggests it also expects to OWN the entire machine. It was made for a 'different era' so that's not entirely unexpected. At this point I do not expect to be able to install it to a discrete partition GRUB can handle. MAYbe as a VM, maybe ...... P9 is another one of those "Unix-ish" systems that are quite capable - but kinda out of the reach of M$ lawyers. MIGHT be worth revisiting, modernizing ....