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Re: ChatGPT *Can Write Code* ... And MS $$$ Will Push It Further FAST

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On 2/7/23 8:59 AM, Rich wrote:
> 26C.Z968 <26C.Z968@noaada.net> wrote:
>> On 2/6/23 5:38 PM, Blue-Maned_Hawk wrote:
>>>
>>> ?Meh.  I'm still pretty apathetic to machine learning.  It's
>>> consistently less effective to brute-force solutions with ML than to
>>> determine the solutions through clever, creative, wise human
>>> thought.
>>
>>    Alas, I think that's starting to change.  The "AI"s seem more savvy
>>    at "Lego" programs - taking a vague-ish description of what's
>>    needed and stacking functional modules together to achieve the
>>    effect.
>>
>>    With 64-bit processors and loads of cheap RAM/storage that may put
>>    them over the top.  Doesn't matter if it's less efficient, so long
>>    as the "AI"s are CHEAPER THAN HUMAN PROGRAMMERS WHO USE ALL THOSE
>>    TERMS NOBODY UNDERSTANDS TO THWART YOUR GOALS OF SELLING
>>    SUPERCRAPWARE AND RISING IN THE COMPANY.
> 
> What is more likely to happen is the AI's will allow an entire
> population of people who can't create a program now (even stringing
> 'modules' together in Bash) to create programs.  The results will
> likely be rough and dirty, but for those folks will mostly achieve
> their desired goal (provided everything aligns properly).


   Oh, I understand (won't be TOO long before nobody does) - BUT,
   if SuperCrapWare is super-CHEAPWare, with no annoying and
   expensive humans in the loop anymore, it WILL prevail. That's
   economics.


> I.e., AI will allow all the Excel jockeys to actually create more than
> 'Excel programs'.
> 
> For the more crafted programs that do more than "abort" when their
> inputs don't match *exactly* their expectations, those will likely still
> require someone with actual programming skill to create them.

   I think the "AI" programs are already a bit beyond such
   problems. It's just a matter of sticking the right "Lego"
   bits together. Removing expensive and annoying humans from
   software development is a sort of Holy Grail for the
   management types. They want it, the economics favor it,
   so it WILL BE - probably sooner than you think. BIG MONEY
   entities like MS/Goog are behind this 101%

   Ah, today, it's announced BING will be incorporating
   ChatGPT utility very soon. No longer JUST a "search
   engine", but an "engine of creation" too. This is
   barely a few WEEKS since the news that M$ had greatly
   increased its ownership in ChatGPT .....

   So, what ELSE can be turned into ChatGPT "creative
   narratives" ??? Not just programming. I suspect it
   will be a major component in all the bots that
   replace idiot/costly human workers.

   The point ALWAYS ignored ... if you put all the
   humans out of a job, who's gonna BUY what your
   "AI" systems produce - from McBurgers on up ???

   I have a suspicion that there's a "dead zone", a
   point where you CAN'T get from a human-labor
   economy to an "AI"-labor-based economy. Not
   enough human money left to push the "AI" stuff
   into practical existence.

   MIGHT be kinder-n-gentler ways around that, but
   real corps ain't gonna use them.

   Oh well, I'll get my MediCare and SS cards in
   just a short time. I'll be The Voting Group they
   all have to cater to - and yes I'm a paying AARP
   member. But what about the REST of you - esp
   the 30s/40s/50s segment ????????

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