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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it |
| Date | 2023-03-03 11:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <e6u8djxuiu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (14 earlier) <9TPLL.243396$Ldj8.162746@fx47.iad> <v4ednWJZ6tlFgJ35nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <Ms6ML.188091$Sgyc.182208@fx40.iad> <hp-cnWTQsqs575z5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> <ttsf2n$279gm$65@dont-email.me> |
On 2023-03-03 10:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 03/03/2023 04:08, 28A.I873 wrote: >> On 3/2/23 2:06 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> On 2023-03-02, 28A.I873 <28A.I873@noabzba.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 3/1/23 4:57 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2023-03-01, 28A.I873 <28A.I873@noabzba.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've several NON-IT people who were able to create >>>>>> and tweak an inventory DB using Access.. pix of >>>>>> the hardware included. NONE could do it with >>>>>> Oracle/MySql/SQL-SERVER ... no WAY. This means >>>>>> that *I* don't have to worry about it, *I* don't >>>>>> have to tweak it, *I* don't have to maintain it. >>>>>> Does what it needs to do. >>>>> >>>>> And they don't/can't/won't come after you when >>>>> things go sideways? You're in an enviable position. >>>> >>>> Oddly, nothing has ever gone wrong :-) >>> >>> You are _very_ lucky. Whenever I'm in such a situation, >>> along comes the User from Hell, who messes with the system, >>> breaks it thoroughly, complains loudly, then clams up when >>> I ask what he did. >> >> Heh heh ... yea, I've had a few of those - JUST enough >> knowledge, or perception thereof, to cause LOTS of >> damage. Fortunately none of them ever got ahold of >> that Access app. >> > When I was developing BIOS software for a PC clone, many years ago, the > company employed loads of students in the vacation to fiddle around > until they broke it. An excellent choice, because students have just > enough knowledge to be really dangerous. > > On another occasion, I was called back to fix a problem in some software > I had written,. The girl who was using it said 'its strange, because I > used to get it a lot, but now I hardly get it at all.. > > That was the killer piece of information. When there was an operator > error, my code went to an error handling routine that handled the error > but left the current file open. DOS, being DOS then ran out of file > handles after about 10 errors.... > > I had never tested against that.. I heard of that one. Dos file handle limit. I have hit it also in Linux, recently, when opening a few firefox instances (firefox -P someprofile). After three, the last one crashed on open. > >> And then there are "cursed" users ... whatever they >> touch - software OR hardware - always breaks for no >> obvious reason :-) >> > Worse than that, is the user who knows perfectly well what he did to > break it, but wont tell you because of some sort of pointless pride. > > I gave up helping a particular neighbour. He always lied about what had > happened because he couldn't admit he didn't know what he was doing, > which made it impossible to fix the mistakes. Heh. >>>> Access is "simple" enough, and old enough, to be >>>> kinda bulletproof now. >>> >>> Apparently it's also user-proof, at least in your case. >> >> The (literal) few that use/tweak it never try to get >> TOO deep. They mostly rely on the 'surface features' >> and never try to do any actual "programming" - decorate >> all those potential hooks. It's enough for what they're >> doing. Access CAN get pretty deep, fiddly detailed >> code. In truth it's got the POTENTIAL for almost any >> kind of use, but once you go THAT far you probably >> need another kind of database. > > Exactly so. Typically, these type of tools make easy things to be real easy, but hard things become impossible. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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Contents of file changed while application is reading it Clark Smith <noaddress@nowhere.net> - 2023-02-26 18:52 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-02-26 19:20 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2023-02-26 21:45 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-26 23:05 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-26 23:38 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-26 23:32 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-02-26 19:06 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 00:26 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-02-26 20:48 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 09:03 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 09:58 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 11:16 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 15:20 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 10:34 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 09:49 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 11:13 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 10:02 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 11:13 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-27 10:17 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-02-27 12:27 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 19:19 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-02-27 21:46 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-28 13:33 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-02-28 10:49 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-28 16:21 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-01 01:05 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-01 21:57 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-01 22:53 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-02 19:06 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-02 23:08 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-03 05:23 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-03 09:36 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-03-03 11:19 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-03 15:58 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-03-03 18:47 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-03-04 16:24 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-03-04 18:40 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-03 18:44 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-04 01:25 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2023-03-04 16:21 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-04 23:55 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-05 05:35 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2023-03-05 13:48 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-05 14:01 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2023-03-05 19:16 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-06 00:43 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-06 00:42 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-02-28 12:01 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-01 01:17 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2023-02-28 04:13 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-28 13:16 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-01 01:32 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-01 10:30 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-01 22:48 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-02 09:41 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-02 23:39 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-03 09:28 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2023-03-03 12:16 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-04 01:36 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 07:15 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-04 02:47 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-04 01:12 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 06:51 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-04 03:32 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 09:54 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 10:09 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 11:22 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-04 11:58 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-05 16:43 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-06 09:20 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-04 20:24 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-05 13:40 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2023-03-05 11:29 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-06 01:21 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-06 01:06 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-03-06 09:28 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28B.I874" <28B.I874@noabzba.net> - 2023-03-06 08:54 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2023-02-26 17:35 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-26 23:39 +0000
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "28A.I873" <28A.I873@noabzba.net> - 2023-02-26 22:42 -0500
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2023-02-27 10:45 +0100
Re: Contents of file changed while application is reading it The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2023-02-26 23:31 +0000
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