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Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust

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On 2025-03-23 8:37 a.m., c186282 wrote:
> On 3/23/25 7:33 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>> On 2025-03-23 3:49 a.m., c186282 wrote:
>>> On 3/22/25 7:34 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>> Ubuntu, the distro that's fit only for pussies and queers,
>>>> is going Rust:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/19/ubuntu_2510_rust/
>>>
>>>    First off, there's nothing horrible about Rust ... it's
>>>    a perfectly good programming language. 'C' is far more
>>>    traditional ... but CAN be (made) really hard to read,
>>>    esp by hot-shot kiddies.
>>>
>>>    Hey, I'm old enough to remember when 'C' was *new* ...
>>>    great fun on the PDP-11s. Beat the shit out of COBOL.
>>
>> It has already been shown that the same program, made in Rust, is much 
>> slower than its C equivalent. If the goal were to optimize 
>> performance, Rust is not the way to go. People will claim that it 
>> won't matter because computers have become much more powerful, but why 
>> would you want to rewrite something for it to run as well on 2025 
>> hardware as it did on 2010 hardware? Wouldn't you want your new 
>> hardware to _feel_ faster than what you had before?
> 
>    Note that 'C' has been around a LOT longer ... meaning
>    a lot more time to write good compiler optimizations.
> 
>    So, I'd say "give it time". Rust is now popular enough
>    so I don't think it's going to go away. It WILL get a
>    lot tighter and faster over time.
> 
>    Not ENTIRELY sure about the "why" of Rust however ...
>    it's enough like 'C'/'C++' that you may as well just
>    use those. IS a tad 'clearer' however. 'C' can be
>    written just HORRIBLY.
> 
>>>    Ubuntu as a distro - DUMPED it years ago. Way WAY too
>>>    many stupid unnecessary changes to the Deb base approach,
>>>    too many Ubuntu Goodies that were HARD to dodge. It was
>>>    becoming (HAS become) the Winders of Linux. Just got
>>>    TOO - so I went to straight Deb for years.
>>>
>>>    NOW, seems Deb hired too many Canonical rejects and
>>>    IT now looks more like Ubuntu than it's original
>>>    purist/root distros. Dreadful.
>>>
>>>    Been rocking Fedora and Manjaro a lot lately. The
>>>    MX tweak on Deb is still fair. Don't love Arch
>>>    derivs ... but, gotta do what ya gotta do.
>>
>> Manjaro was spectacular in my experience with it. The _only_ reason I 
>> moved out of it was because a game I was playing, Black Mesa, 
>> performed very poorly in Linux compared to Windows. I should go back 
>> because I truly think that it was the best Linux experience I've ever 
>> had. I did read that it had serious security issues caused by their 
>> decision not to renew a certificate though.
> 
>    Manjaro IS good, no question. Clearly didn't serve your
>    EVERY need, but it WILL serve almost all Linux needs. It,
>    and the Arch base, are very well-refined at this point.

To be fair, I could have lived with the poor performance on that one 
particular game. Manjaro basically fits for everything I want to do 
except have access to the movies I purchased on Microsoft Films & TV. 
Looking back, every film I bought should have been in DVD form.

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-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-22 11:34 +0000
  Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-03-22 18:18 +0000
    Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-23 17:18 +0000
      Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-24 01:26 -0400
        Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 06:08 +0000
          Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-24 02:50 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-24 09:27 +0000
  Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-23 03:49 -0400
    Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-03-23 11:07 +0100
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    Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-23 07:33 -0400
      Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-03-23 08:37 -0400
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