Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx07.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Betterbird (Windows) Subject: Re: Ubuntu, The Pussy Distro, Is Going Rust Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: Content-Language: en-US From: CrudeSausage In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 74 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenet-news.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 13:21:10 UTC Organization: usenet-news.net Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 09:21:02 -0400 X-Received-Bytes: 4154 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.advocacy:687859 comp.os.linux.misc:66570 On 2025-03-23 8:37 a.m., c186282 wrote: > On 3/23/25 7:33 AM, CrudeSausage wrote: >> On 2025-03-23 3:49 a.m., c186282 wrote: >>> On 3/22/25 7:34 AM, Farley Flud wrote: >>>> Ubuntu, the distro that's fit only for pussies and queers, >>>> is going Rust: >>>> >>>> https://www.theregister.com/2025/03/19/ubuntu_2510_rust/ >>> >>>    First off, there's nothing horrible about Rust ... it's >>>    a perfectly good programming language. 'C' is far more >>>    traditional ... but CAN be (made) really hard to read, >>>    esp by hot-shot kiddies. >>> >>>    Hey, I'm old enough to remember when 'C' was *new* ... >>>    great fun on the PDP-11s. Beat the shit out of COBOL. >> >> It has already been shown that the same program, made in Rust, is much >> slower than its C equivalent. If the goal were to optimize >> performance, Rust is not the way to go. People will claim that it >> won't matter because computers have become much more powerful, but why >> would you want to rewrite something for it to run as well on 2025 >> hardware as it did on 2010 hardware? Wouldn't you want your new >> hardware to _feel_ faster than what you had before? > >   Note that 'C' has been around a LOT longer ... meaning >   a lot more time to write good compiler optimizations. > >   So, I'd say "give it time". Rust is now popular enough >   so I don't think it's going to go away. It WILL get a >   lot tighter and faster over time. > >   Not ENTIRELY sure about the "why" of Rust however ... >   it's enough like 'C'/'C++' that you may as well just >   use those. IS a tad 'clearer' however. 'C' can be >   written just HORRIBLY. > >>>    Ubuntu as a distro - DUMPED it years ago. Way WAY too >>>    many stupid unnecessary changes to the Deb base approach, >>>    too many Ubuntu Goodies that were HARD to dodge. It was >>>    becoming (HAS become) the Winders of Linux. Just got >>>    TOO - so I went to straight Deb for years. >>> >>>    NOW, seems Deb hired too many Canonical rejects and >>>    IT now looks more like Ubuntu than it's original >>>    purist/root distros. Dreadful. >>> >>>    Been rocking Fedora and Manjaro a lot lately. The >>>    MX tweak on Deb is still fair. Don't love Arch >>>    derivs ... but, gotta do what ya gotta do. >> >> Manjaro was spectacular in my experience with it. The _only_ reason I >> moved out of it was because a game I was playing, Black Mesa, >> performed very poorly in Linux compared to Windows. I should go back >> because I truly think that it was the best Linux experience I've ever >> had. I did read that it had serious security issues caused by their >> decision not to renew a certificate though. > >   Manjaro IS good, no question. Clearly didn't serve your >   EVERY need, but it WILL serve almost all Linux needs. It, >   and the Arch base, are very well-refined at this point. To be fair, I could have lived with the poor performance on that one particular game. Manjaro basically fits for everything I want to do except have access to the movies I purchased on Microsoft Films & TV. Looking back, every film I bought should have been in DVD form. < snip > -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6