Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem

Date	2026-05-28 03:22 -0400
Subject	Re: Hmm ... Ordered PI-Zero 2WH "Kit" - Possible Problem
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From	c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
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On 5/27/26 04:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-05-27 08:48, c186282 wrote:
>> On 5/27/26 02:22, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-05-26 23:55, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 26 May 2026 20:24:48 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In my city there was a "social gathering" every night using CB on some
>>>>> channel. People talked of many things, in turn. These people are now
>>>>> gone,
>>>>> instead they chat on Internet without using a radio at all. That 
>>>>> social
>>>>> aspect is mostly gone.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.onallbands.com/rag-chewing-a-lost-art/
>>>>
>>>> I haven't listened in decades but there used to be a frequency in 
>>>> the 40
>>>> meter band where people would hang out. It was a lot like usenet. One
>>>> problem with 40m is propagation is fickle. Sometimes you could only 
>>>> hear
>>>> half of a conversation.
>>>>
>>>> The local ham club has a net on 2m on Wednesday night on the repeater.
>>>> There isn't a lot of informal talk. Mostly it's a roll call to see if
>>>> anyone has message traffic to pass as sort of a practice session. In
>>>> theory during a disaster the hams can pass messages that someone 
>>>> might be
>>>> able to deliver. That's part of the justification for the frequency
>>>> allocations.
>>>
>>> I read about that message traffic long ago. When I was interested in 
>>> becoming a ham, say late 70's early 80,s, that type of usage was 
>>> forbidden in Spain. Reason was you could not compete with the the 
>>> Telefonica monopoly or the Telegram network.
>>>
>>> As my interest dropped (studies interfered), I did not keep up with 
>>> that particular situation.
>>>
>>> I can ask an AI to find out, but some people get twisted head over 
>>> tits with that, so wont do.
>>>
>>> Ja! Of course I asked. The 1986 regulation is basically the same as 
>>> the 1979 regulation.
>>>
>>> «It said amateur communications should be limited to:
>>>
>>>   * technical matters,
>>>   * experimentation,
>>>   * and personal observations
>>>     “for which public telecommunications services are not justified.”»
>>>
>>>    (https://www.fediea.org/legisla/o210386.php)
>>
>>
>>    Wow ... how fascist !!!
> 
> Absolutely fascist, dead on. It was a Franco's idea.
> 
>>
>>
>>> Then there was another regulation in 2013, relaxed wording, but the 
>>> core remains:
>>>
>>> “Amateur radio stations and equipment may be used to transmit 
>>> communications on behalf of third parties only in the event of an 
>>> emergency or disaster.”
>>>
>>> (https://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/509667-om- 
>>> iet-1311-2013-de-9-jul-reglamento-de-uso-del-dominio-publico- 
>>> radioelectrico.html)
>>>
>>> Which is funny considering the existence and explosion of Internet.
>>
>>    Fascists are still around.
>>
>>    Though MOST are now on the 'left' - weird eh ?
>>
>>    Marginal autocrats always want to suppress all
>>    possible competing messages/ideas. The left
>>    now calls it "cancellation" - you Don't Exist.
> 
> I don't think the legislator has any idea about what HAM is about.
> However, that law is right wing. The government at the time was Rajoy, 
> thus right wing. Nothing to do with progressism.


   HAMs ? They pre-date any of the modern politics.

   However their mission remains vital.

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