Re: Floppies - Actual Question

Date	2025-09-24 21:32 -0400
Subject	Re: Floppies - Actual Question
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On 9/24/25 15:05, c186282 wrote:
> On 9/24/25 12:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-09-24, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 24/09/2025 06:49, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Recently got a USB floppy reader.
>>>>> BUT - no partition table on the disk
>>>>
>>>> I think you can* put a partition table on a floppy, but they usually
>>>> just have a single filesystem without partition table ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [*] vague memories of making ElTorito bootable CDs from images of
>>>> partitioned floppies?
>>>
>>> If the drive you have has a different understanding of track spacing
>>> than what is on your disks, they are unreadable.
>>>
>>> Reformatting *at a low level* should work however.
>>> Its so long I cannot remember how to do that.
>>
>> First you get a large magnet...
>>
> 
>    Hey ! The large magnet WORKED !
> 
>    Swirled around the disk.
> 
>    Then :
> 
>      ufiformat /dev/sdb
>      mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb
>      mount /dev/sdb /home/memyself/fdd -o defaults
> 
>    Was able to write a file.
> 
>    Maybe some of the things just HAVE been sitting around
>    for too long ?
> 
>    Anyway, the drive works ok and it's POSSIBLE to at
>    least re-use some of the old flops.
> 
>    A lot of my old stuff was in zip sets done by an
>    old DOS app called "FastBack". MIGHT be able to
>    find it on some OldWare sites and run it in a
>    dos/win VM.
> 

   I will revise slightly :

     mount -o umask=000,rw /dev/sdb /home/memyself/fdd

   works better/easier for most typical uses.

   My other two test disks did not require the magnet
   treatment, just the above steps in order.

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Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 00:02 -0400
  Re: Floppies - Actual Question Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
    Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:43 +0000
      Re: Floppies - Actual Question Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 15:21 +0000
        Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-27 14:17 -0400
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 22:31 +0000
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-28 00:26 +0000
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-28 01:21 +0000
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-28 10:21 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-28 19:27 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:12 +0200
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 09:55 +0100
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 11:08 +0100
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-28 12:19 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:07 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:36 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-28 23:35 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-29 00:28 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-28 21:08 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-29 05:31 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-29 16:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 18:36 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-29 19:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-29 10:12 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-29 19:33 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-09-29 19:50 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:31 +0100
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:15 +0200
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-29 08:18 -0700
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-29 19:27 +0000
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-28 00:31 +0000
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 11:19 +0100
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 15:22 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-28 18:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-28 19:18 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 23:55 +0100
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-28 09:53 +0100
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question Peter 'Shaggy' Haywood <phaywood@alphalink.com.au> - 2025-10-02 18:28 +1000
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2025-10-02 21:44 +0300
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 00:10 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:35 -0400
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:32 -0400
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:21 -0400
  Re: Floppies - Actual Question Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-09-24 06:49 +0100
    Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:45 +0100
      Re: Floppies - Actual Question Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:53 +0000
        Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 14:35 -0400
        Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 15:05 -0400
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 21:32 -0400
        Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-24 20:38 +0000
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:04 +0000
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-09-25 00:44 +0000
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 20:58 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:07 +0200
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 12:48 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-25 15:52 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:09 +0000
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 09:44 +0100
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 13:04 +0200
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 12:48 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:15 +0200
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-25 21:06 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-25 22:10 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-25 21:09 -0400
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 20:45 -0400
              Re: Floppies - Actual Question rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 05:27 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-25 15:42 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-26 04:59 +0000
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-26 01:36 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-27 09:12 +0100
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-27 13:58 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-27 03:11 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 14:22 +0200
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-29 23:03 -0400
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:32 +0200
                Re: Floppies - Actual Question Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-09-26 15:19 +0000
          Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 20:23 -0400
            Re: Floppies - Actual Question The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-25 09:45 +0100
  Re: Floppies - Actual Question Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2025-09-24 08:41 +0200
  Re: Floppies - Actual Question "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 12:04 +0200
    Re: Floppies - Actual Question c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-24 14:34 -0400
  Re: Floppies - Actual Question John McCue <jmclnx@SPAMisBADgmail.com> - 2025-09-24 17:11 +0000
  Re: Floppies - Actual Question Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2025-09-28 01:00 -0700

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