Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com

From	Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Organization	Deepwoods Software
Subject	Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com
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Date	2011-04-08 10:15 -0500

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At Fri, 08 Apr 2011 14:37:40 +0100 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> 
> Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Fri, 08 Apr 2011 13:59:15 +0100 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> >> Bryce wrote:
> >>> I'm using up-to-date Debian Sid. Iceweasel reverts to text 
> >>> mode when browsing cnet.com. It's been that way for a long 
> >>> time. Iceweasel works fine for all other sites. Konqueror 
> >>> shows the graphical version of cnet.com.
> >>>
> >>> Does Iceweasel work on cnet for you?
> >>
> >> Dunno, but firefox is fine on Debian.
> >> Only time sites revert to 'text mode' is when one of the links - usually 
> >> to a style sheet,  or a javascript source - are down.
> >>
> >> There is no 'text mode' for HTML anyway that I know of. Or  rather its 
> >> all text mode, with pictures and styles being added. If the pictures and 
> >> styles are gone, that's probably because the styles and images cant be 
> >> found.
> > 
> > One possiblity is internet access issues.  This 'non-graphical'
> > business occurs to me all of the time (I use FF under CentOS), but
> > mainly because I am on a dialup connection and just don't have to the
> > bandwidth to download everything.  FF (stupidly!) assumes there is
> > plenty of bandwidth to open *several* connections and concurrently
> > download the HTML, stylesheets, JavaScipt, and images (and do several
> > DNS lookups at the same time).  Sometimes what happens is some of these
> > connections (often the DNS lookups) timeout and fail, causing one or
> > more connections to be silently dropped, causing things like
> > stylesheets, JavaScipt, or images to just not be loaded.  Sometimes it
> > take several reloads to get everything loaded (previously loaded stuff
> > lands in the cache and is not refetched).
> > 
> >>                                                                                                      
> > 
> yep. Thats the sort of patterns I see..though not from bandwidth 
> problems locally. More from sites/links down/congested elsewhere.
> 
> 
> I wish people would NOT litter their sites with bits and pieces from 
> other sites..

Even when everything is on one site (avoiding the extra DNS lookups),
it can (and is) still be a problem.  And it would be really, really,
nice if FF, et. al. were not so 'eager' with reguards to available
bandwidth -- eg if the multi-threading FF uses could be thottled back,
say some parameter setting to reduce the number of worker threads to a
small number (even to 1).  I know that would 'slow' things down, but at
<28.8KBPS (what I usually end up connecting at, thank you Verizon for
NOT maintaining the copper infrastructure in Western Mass), the extra
threads can't really speed things up.

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Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Bryce <none@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-08 08:31 -0400
  Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-08 13:59 +0100
    Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-08 08:31 -0500
      Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-08 14:37 +0100
        Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-08 10:15 -0500
          Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Thomas Keusch <fwd+usenet-spam2011q2@spam2011q2.bsd-solutions-duesseldorf.de> - 2011-04-08 16:18 +0000
            Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2011-04-08 11:50 -0500
              Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Thomas Keusch <fwd+usenet-spam2011q1@spam2011q1.bsd-solutions-duesseldorf.de> - 2011-04-08 21:35 +0000
    Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Mark Hobley <markhobley@yahoo.donottypethisbit.co> - 2011-04-29 13:05 +0000
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  Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com jellybean stonerfish <stonerfish@geocities.com> - 2011-04-08 14:06 +0000
  Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com notbob <notbob@notbob.invalid> - 2011-04-08 15:27 +0000
    Re: Iceweasel won't browse cnet.com Bryce <none@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-08 20:08 -0400

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