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Re: KDE Goes Wayland

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From John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: KDE Goes Wayland
Date Mon, 15 Dec 2025 10:22:16 -0800
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 03:08:12 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

> > If a project is as open and direct about aiming to supplant and
> > replace another project as Wayland has been, expecting it to offer
> > feature parity with the thing it's replacing (and a relatively
> > seamless switch in terms of user experience) is entirely
> > reasonable.  
> 
> Not really. X11 is full of legacy baggage (e.g. graphics API) which
> needs to be dumped.

That may well be so, but if they make bad judgement calls about what is
or isn't needless cruft, they will learn that the hard way - as they've
recently done with things like application-directed window positioning,
which after years of insisting that You Don't Need That they're finally
having to admit that some people *do* need, because enough people told
them to jump in a lake that they had to worry about losing their bid
for adoption.

But if they'd been less blinkered and dogmatic from the get-go, they
might've realized that there are actually some very obvious and common
use cases for that, and not caused a protracted argument and hacked off
a bunch of potential users for no reason.

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Re: KDE Goes Wayland Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 03:08 +0000
  Re: KDE Goes Wayland rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 04:03 +0000
  Re: KDE Goes Wayland John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 10:22 -0800
    Re: KDE Goes Wayland Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 22:53 +0000
  Re: KDE Goes Wayland "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-12-15 16:09 -0500

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