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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: VMS |
| Date | 2025-07-23 08:04 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20250723080407.00004a8a@gmail.com> (permalink) |
| References | (12 earlier) <wwvzfcy0z3n.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <20250721091242.00007573@gmail.com> <wwvms8x5nsk.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <20250721133148.00007cc6@gmail.com> <105pv2t$77mv$1@dont-email.me> |
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 07:22:21 +0100 Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> wrote: > You appear to be advocating for using an "assert" type paradigm. This > doesn't need to be coupled to actual reservation size. I'm not so much advocating for any specific coding practice in any specific language - asserts work, but so does designing algorithms such that bounds violations can never happen (e.g. #define BUFFER_BOUND and then loop from 0 to BUFFER_BOUND - if there's no other indexing, it will never go off the end, unless the compiler is just broken,) where possible. My point is simply that, unless you're using a language where bounds- checking is provided for "free" behind the scenes, boundary errors will *always* be a hazard, and working in conscious recognition of that is a far more responsible approach than relying on superstitious warding practices - even if the practices in question may be valid design choices for other reasons.
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Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 08:04 -0700
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Re: VMS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-23 20:04 +0100
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Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 14:28 -0700
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Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 08:05 -0700
Re: VMS Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-24 21:51 +0100
Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 15:06 -0700
Re: VMS Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-25 07:06 +0100
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Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 20:38 +0000
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Re: VMS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:44 +0100
Re: VMS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-28 13:39 +0100
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Re: VMS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 11:42 +0100
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 19:16 +0000
Re: VMS Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-29 12:10 +0100
Re: VMS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:08 +0100
Re: VMS Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-07-29 09:51 -0700
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-29 18:53 +0000
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-29 04:51 -0400
Re: VMS Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-07-29 13:32 +0000
Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 09:22 -0700
Re: VMS The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 12:11 +0100
Re: VMS Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-27 22:02 +0000
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 04:58 +0000
Re: VMS Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-08-01 19:13 +0000
Re: VMS Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-08-01 20:38 +0000
Re: VMS Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-02 00:01 +0000
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 02:24 -0400
Re: VMS Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-08-02 11:34 +0100
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-02 21:02 -0400
Re: VMS Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-03 02:08 +0000
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-08-03 01:00 -0400
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 21:31 -0400
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 05:03 +0000
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-28 02:19 -0400
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-27 21:09 -0400
Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 10:17 -0700
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 20:46 +0000
Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-28 14:34 -0700
Re: VMS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-28 16:34 +0000
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-28 20:48 +0000
Re: VMS Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-29 01:00 +0000
Re: VMS Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-07-29 10:07 +0100
Re: VMS Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-07-29 23:05 +0000
Re: VMS c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-07-30 02:43 -0400
Re: VMS Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-08-02 18:11 +0200
Re: VMS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-24 14:42 +0000
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-24 18:05 +0000
Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:14 -0700
Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-24 23:10 +0000
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Re: VMS rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-07-24 23:21 +0000
Re: VMS John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 14:05 -0700
Re: VMS Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-07-21 21:14 +0000
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