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Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them

From Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them
Date 2025-04-29 20:11 +0200
Organization Zarquon's Den
Message-ID <20250429201119.736dc05c@blackbird.dehmel-lan.de> (permalink)
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 18:56:18 +0000
Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:12:42 -0700, John Ames wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Just so, it seems to me. Of course it's many years too late for
> > *nix to course-correct on this, but it was a stupid design decision
> > in 1970 and it remains stupid now. Well, such is the nature of
> > things in this vale of sin and tears...
> >  
> 
> Case insensitivity was only idiotic at the beginning, but now, in the
> age of Unicode, it is supremely idiotic.
> 
> Consider the German "sharp s," which I cannot enter as UTF-8 here.
> 
> But the lower case sharp s maps into TWO DIFFERENT upper case chars:
> <can't enter> and "SS," e.g. STRASSE or <can't enter>.

That merely illustrates the point that whoever decided to model it like
this in Unicode was truly a numbskull. For two reasons:

1) just because the result _looks_ like SS doesn't mean it has to be
two characters. A Unicode character can look like anything, even a full
word (and beyond). The only reason to use two characters would be
hyphenation, which in this case is explicitly forbidden. Someone didn't
understand the difference between syntax and semantics.

2) this transformation is not trivially inversible. No, you can't just
translate every SS back to ß, you'd pretty much need an AI to invert
this. Whenever you're introducing a transformation that's trivial in
one direction and extremely hard in the other, and you're not working
in cryptography, you're doing something extremely, horribly wrong.


> There are special rules on case folding for thousands of Unicode chars
> and the "sharp s" example is one of the simplest.

I seriously doubt that, especially since many (most?) languages don't
even know what "case" is supposed to be in the first place (such as
Japanese, I'm pretty sure it's the same in Chinese and most other asian
languages, which incidentally take up the most code points). And even
if it were true, that'd mean we'd need a couple of thousand additional
code points for these special cases, out of several million -- who
cares, the gender-neutral-smileys-crowd?



Andreas Dehmel

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Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-27 10:21 +0000
  Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 08:00 -0700
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-04-28 16:44 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 06:41 +0000
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 17:49 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:12 -0700
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 18:56 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:31 -0700
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 20:03 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-04-29 01:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 04:13 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-29 10:00 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2025-05-03 10:18 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-03 14:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 09:23 -0700
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:32 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:09 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-04-29 10:18 +0200
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:32 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:18 +0000
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 19:46 +0200
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:22 +0100
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:25 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:00 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-04-30 22:02 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-01 04:45 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 05:07 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 13:41 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-01 10:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:07 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 22:49 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 19:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-01 13:42 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 15:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-02 08:45 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:27 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:42 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:06 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:10 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-02 17:18 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:11 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 09:24 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:26 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-03 08:58 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:47 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:23 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 02:08 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 07:50 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-02 23:17 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-02 00:27 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:57 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-05 22:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-06 09:10 +1000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-07 09:54 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 04:54 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:00 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:12 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:17 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 14:21 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:51 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 23:43 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 08:14 -0700
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:49 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:41 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:46 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 23:52 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 01:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-08 09:06 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 01:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:22 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-08 02:42 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-08 08:57 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 07:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 15:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-08 18:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 20:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:32 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 00:28 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 02:01 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 18:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 20:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:33 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:52 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 23:55 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 10:53 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-10 18:14 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 11:42 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-11 15:24 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-11 21:17 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:04 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 05:49 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:20 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 05:35 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-13 17:03 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 05:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-14 19:26 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-14 21:36 +0100
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:15 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:13 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-12 05:10 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 01:03 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-11 00:19 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-10 22:40 -0400
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-10 03:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:50 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 23:55 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 10:33 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 00:27 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-09 00:49 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 09:50 +0100
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 01:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 02:02 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-09 07:06 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-09 01:44 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 07:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-09 15:20 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:53 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 09:22 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:54 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:55 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-11 00:21 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-11 11:35 +0100
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:11 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 07:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-06 01:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:00 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 08:16 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-06 13:19 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-06 22:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 14:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:53 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 14:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:02 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:18 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 02:02 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 07:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:36 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 21:02 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 02:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:47 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:06 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 02:33 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:43 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:17 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:25 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-05 09:55 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:48 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:54 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:12 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:33 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:41 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-04 22:31 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:53 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:21 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:40 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:18 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:12 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 16:40 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 22:49 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-05 23:52 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 05:22 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-06 18:38 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-06 22:16 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 17:41 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 18:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:01 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:35 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:59 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:35 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 21:08 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:22 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:05 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 18:15 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 19:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:40 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-06 22:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:22 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:11 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 19:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:00 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:51 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:14 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:13 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-29 20:11 +0200
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:04 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-30 21:09 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:14 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-03 08:09 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 22:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:25 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 17:53 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:38 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:49 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 11:06 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 11:20 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-03 16:48 +0200
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:43 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-29 19:10 +0000
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:37 +0200
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:34 +0200
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:40 +0000
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:53 +0200

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