Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them

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From	Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid>
Subject	Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them
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Date	2025-05-08 14:22 +1000
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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Second, the issue in shell is is that newlines (or spaces) interact
>>> badly with its approach to string handling: a filename can cause a
>>> script to unexpectedly fail. For all that C has truly awful string
>>> handling, it doesn't go awry just because there's a space or newline in
>>> a string that it's working with.
>> 
>> When dealing with programs like find, sort, uniq etc.  it's more of a 
>> data format issue than a shell issue.  As in the link from the GNU 
>> find documentation which I supplied before where "find" apparantly 
>> runs "sort" itself and needs that to support null-terminated line 
>> delimiters to handle newlines in filenames, rather than the default 
>> newline-terminated format:
> 
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/findutils/manual/html_node/find_html/Newline-Handling.html
> 
> That is not the "find" documentation, that is the documentation for 
> locate/updatedb and the db format they use to make locating a filename 
> faster than a raw disk scan.  That 'running of sort' is done by 
> 'updatedb', not find.  

OK sorry, the GNU Findutils documentation, there talking about GNU
locate.

>> Of course a C program can use any character to separate strings
> 
> A C program uses (if it uses libc's string routines) ASCII nulls to 
> mark the end of a C string in memory.  Of course if you want to build 
> your own "C string" library (C's strings are provided by libc, not the 
> C language itself) you can choose to delimit strings however you wish.

There's some miscommunication here, I'm talking about when a C
program reads in/out strings from/to a file, pipe, etc., not how
it stores them in memory itself. Find, sort, uniq etc. use newlines
for that by default.

>> But it means assuming that newlines in filenames won't actually 
>> appear.
> 
> Which, in reality, is all but true unless someone is going out of their 
> way to experiment or be very odd.  The only time I've ever encountered 
> filenames with newlines has been when I've deliberately created them to 
> verify some bit of code (or to try to break some bit of code, although 
> verify/break often go hand in hand).

That's my point exactly, all these work-arounds in specific
programs like "find -print0" in GNU Find have been written even
though use of newlines in filenames is so rare. We'd have been
better off with newlines forbidden in filenames so that all the
special handling just for the sake of someone "going out of their
way to experiment or be very odd" could be avoided. Probably more
secure against people hacking software whose authors didn't think
about it too.

Yes it's too late to change now, _someone_ will be using filenames
with newlines in a major way, but I'd say the same about the case
insensitivity feature which "Torvalds Hates".

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  Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 08:00 -0700
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2025-04-28 16:44 +0000
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 06:41 +0000
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      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 11:12 -0700
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 18:56 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:31 -0700
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-28 20:03 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-29 10:00 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-03 14:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 09:23 -0700
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:32 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:09 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-04-29 10:18 +0200
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:32 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-29 14:18 +0000
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            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:22 +0100
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 22:25 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-30 10:00 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 05:07 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-01 10:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:07 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 22:49 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 19:58 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-01 15:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-02 08:45 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:27 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:15 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 00:42 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 07:10 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:06 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:10 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-02 17:18 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:11 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 09:24 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 08:26 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-03 08:58 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:47 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:23 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 02:08 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 07:50 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-02 23:17 -0400
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:57 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-05 22:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-06 09:10 +1000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:00 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:12 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 12:17 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-07 14:21 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:51 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 23:43 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-05-07 08:14 -0700
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:49 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 22:41 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:46 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 23:52 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 01:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-08 09:06 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 01:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-05-08 14:22 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-08 02:42 -0400
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 07:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 15:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-08 18:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-08 20:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:32 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 00:28 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 02:01 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 18:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 20:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:33 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:52 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 23:55 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 10:53 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-10 18:14 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-10 20:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 21:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 01:04 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-11 10:58 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 11:42 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-11 15:24 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-11 21:17 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-12 13:04 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 22:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-13 05:49 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-13 11:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:20 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 05:35 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-13 17:03 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 05:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-14 19:26 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-14 21:36 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 22:25 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 22:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-15 00:04 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-14 23:36 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-15 05:41 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:15 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 16:13 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-12 01:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-12 05:10 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-11 01:03 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-11 00:19 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-10 22:40 -0400
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:50 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-09 23:55 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 10:33 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 00:27 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-09 00:49 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 09:50 +0100
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-05-09 08:28 +1000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 01:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 02:02 +0000
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-09 01:44 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 07:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-05-09 15:20 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:53 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-09 09:20 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-08 09:22 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-08 22:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-09 21:54 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-09 21:55 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-11 00:21 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-05-11 11:35 +0100
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                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:11 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 07:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-06 01:36 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 02:00 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-06 08:48 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 08:16 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-06 13:19 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-06 22:30 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 14:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:53 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 14:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:02 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-02 22:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:05 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 03:18 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 02:02 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 07:58 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:36 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-02 21:02 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 02:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-03 21:47 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:06 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 02:33 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:43 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:17 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:25 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-05 09:55 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:48 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:54 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:56 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:12 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:28 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:33 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 02:29 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-03 22:41 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 08:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-04 22:31 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 13:53 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-04 20:21 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-04 22:40 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 06:18 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 13:12 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-05 16:40 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-05 22:49 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-05 23:52 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-05-06 05:22 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-05-06 18:38 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-05-06 22:16 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 17:41 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 18:34 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:01 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 11:35 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:59 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 19:35 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 21:08 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 12:22 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 14:41 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 15:05 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 18:15 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 19:21 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:40 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-05-06 22:27 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-07 11:07 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-07 21:44 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-04 21:22 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:11 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-05-02 19:31 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 00:00 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:51 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:14 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 23:13 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-29 20:11 +0200
            Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:04 +0000
              Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-04-30 21:09 +0200
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-02 20:14 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-02 23:59 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-05-03 08:09 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-03 13:52 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-05-03 22:54 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-09 21:25 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-05-09 17:53 -0400
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:38 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 09:49 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-10 11:06 +0100
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-05-10 11:20 +0000
                Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-05-03 16:48 +0200
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-29 02:43 +0000
          Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-29 19:10 +0000
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:37 +0200
    Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:34 +0200
      Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-29 19:40 +0000
        Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-29 21:53 +0200

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