Re: iPhones and Linux

From	Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: iPhones and Linux
Date	2026-05-24 03:41 +0000
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On Sat, 23 May 2026 14:08:44 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

> Many people say that pf is superior to nftables, and at least
> OPNsense has FreeBSD under the hood. And there is the license issue,
> with the BSD license being much more liberal when you want to make a
> commercial product out of open-source software.

You mean “proprietary product”, not “commercial product”. There are
lots of commercial products built on Linux and built out of Linux, as
you may be aware. And a few of them are quite successful.

Some companies have tried to argue that the GPL is not
“business-friendly”. But it certainly is “competition-friendly” -- it
helps to ensure a level playing field and reduce barriers to entry --
which in turn means we end up with lots of products to choose from.

Some startups certainly tried to build on one or other of the BSDs, at
least back in the 1990s. I can remember a commentator saying that
these companies tended to build proprietary products that died with
them, if/when they went bust. So all the work was wasted -- it was
lifeblood drained out of the BSD ecosystem, leaving it poorer off than
before.

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