Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre

From	Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre
Date	2025-08-14 09:41 +0100
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On 2025-08-14, Richard Kettlewell wrote:

> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> On 2025-08-13, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>
>>> I think the situation with Wayland is similar. They’re trying something
>>> novel, and are identifying requirements incrementally and interactively.
>>> When it comes to the case of applications that want to arrange multiple
>>> windows in a coherent layout, they are somewhere in the middle of that
>>> process.
>>
>> From what has been said in this thread, the case might be that, sadly,
>> what they're doing is closer to bullying and ignoring requirements than
>> to identifying requirements.
>
> That’s not the impression I get from primary sources, but by all means
> rely on the peanut gallery instead.

Yeah, to be clear: I'm not claiming I saw that *myself* from Wayland
developers. The only thing I've witnessed was bullying from people in
the fediverse, who may have nothing to do with the actual project.

I was just bringing that up, given that your post did not mention it at
all, if I've read it correctly (I read it last night, and I tend to
avoid caffeine before sleep, so it *is* possible I've overlooked
something).

>>> Sources:
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/264
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org/msg41606.html
>>> https://canonical-mir.readthedocs-hosted.com/latest/explanation/window-positions-under-wayland/
>>> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/18

(I didn't read these sources (yet?), but I've kept these in my reply
because it seemed to me that these should be present.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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    Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-11 21:06 +0000
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        Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-11 23:27 +0000
          Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-12 08:37 -0700
            Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-12 20:15 +0000
            Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-12 23:29 +0000
              Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-08-13 09:05 -0700
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 19:13 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-13 21:32 +0200
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-13 21:29 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-14 11:20 +0200
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:03 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 00:49 +0000
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-08-14 11:21 +0200
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 01:12 +0000
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                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-08-14 21:00 +0000
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 22:48 +0000
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-08-15 02:56 +0000
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-17 09:12 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 00:16 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 08:56 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 09:41 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 11:58 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:07 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-15 08:27 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-08-14 00:46 +0000
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-14 13:03 +0100
                Re: Artix Linux and Xlibre Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-08-14 12:31 +0000

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