Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From	Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date	2025-08-04 19:34 -0400
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On Mon, 8/4/2025 5:38 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8/4/25 13:20, John Ames wrote:
>> On Mon, 04 Aug 2025 22:00:15 +0200
>> "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> "AI" doesn't understand anything about anything; you might as well
>>>> ask a parrot.
>>>
>>> That is, if the parrot can do probabilities. (-;
>>
>> Parrots are, in fact, famed for their ability to make statistical
>> associations between specific vocalizations and cracker delivery.
>>
> 
>     
>     They also can dance very well for a bird.  Can AI do that yet?
> 
>     A parrot can add to its movement repertory over time finding
> new moves.  Will AI do that?
>     
>     bliss - who is somewhat naturally intelligent but cannot dance much
> any longer.
>     
>     

They're making progress. This is the electric Atlas, the follow on to the
hydraulic Atlas that fell off the plank it was walking on.

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I44_zbEwz_w

That's not path planning from first principles (AI thinking
up things to do). That's still a transfer process using software
and a visual simulator on the screen, so they can tweak the things
it is doing.

But in terms of mechanical details, that thing is miles ahead of
the competition. The competition have motors that kind of glitch
several times a second, and that's because they are attempting to use
closed loop feedback and "correct the movement towards an objective",
by "recomputing the solution" maybe 3-10 times a second. The end result,
is the competitors movements are not "smooth".

At some point, they will meld the various technical bits, and
maybe some day Atlas will bolt itself to one of the AI companies
for higher level functions.

When Atlas lands, after performing a stunt, it will move its foot
backwards an inch or two, or incline its foot to restore its balance,
all without using an excess of the other motors on the limbs. It is
applying feedback, but it is not apparent how it is doing that.
So while at some level, the software is coordinating a flip (as a
kind of set piece), some part of the software is computing custom
feedback so the poor thing does not fall over. And you can tell from
the fluidity of the movement, that the package is pretty well tuned.

That's the robot Musk wishes he had.

Boston Dynamics is owned by SoftBank, and has signed some kind of
pledge about not weaponizing it. So while their equipment will haul
military packs around, the devices (like that Atlas), will not be picking
up a rifle or machine gun.

   "In October 2022, the company signed a pledge saying it
    would not support any weaponization of its robotic creations."

The robot would be only too happy to hand you your gun :-)

   Paul

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