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  Multifunction color laser with network Julien <serval2412@yahoo.fr> - 2011-05-29 23:05 +0200
    Re: Multifunction color laser with network J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-05-29 23:49 +0000
    Re: Multifunction color laser with network Aragorn <aragorn@chatfactory.invalid> - 2011-05-30 02:03 +0200
    Re: Multifunction color laser with network ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-05-30 01:11 +0000
    Re: Multifunction color laser with network Andreas Dehmel <blackhole.8.zarquon42@spamgourmet.com> - 2011-05-30 20:02 +0200
    Re: Multifunction color laser with network Julien <serval2412@yahoo.fr> - 2011-05-31 23:38 +0200
      Re: Multifunction color laser with network Richard Corden <richard.corden@gmail.com> - 2011-06-02 10:05 +0200
        Re: Multifunction color laser with network ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-02 15:17 +0000
          Re: Multifunction color laser with network ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2011-06-04 19:20 -0400
            Re: Multifunction color laser with network J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2011-06-05 01:48 +0000
              Re: Multifunction color laser with network ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2011-06-04 23:58 -0400
          Re: Multifunction color laser with network Richard Corden <richard.corden@gmail.com> - 2011-06-06 10:10 +0200
            Re: Multifunction color laser with network Mark Hobley <markhobley@yahoo.donottypethisbit.co> - 2011-06-08 17:44 +0000
        Re: Multifunction color laser with network Joe Beanfish <joe@nospam.duh> - 2011-06-03 11:25 -0400
          Re: Multifunction color laser with network ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-03 16:19 +0000
            Re: Multifunction color laser with network Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2011-06-04 12:17 +0000

#371 — Multifunction color laser with network

Hello,

  I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included 
(wifi or just ethernet).

Laser because I'm fed up with drying ink in cartridge and I don't care 
about printing good quality photos.
The network is required for me since I have 2 workstations with Debian 
testing x86 32 and 1 Windows Seven 64.

Ideally, I'd like it works out of the box. Some speak about 
Postscript/PCL compatibility but there are several levels.
For example native Postscript 3 printers seem to cost a lot.
Others talked about open source drivers.
I thought about HP or Brother.
Samsung have agressive cost but are their printers reliable ?

What would you advise ? What trademark to avoid or to consider ?
(I don't want to put more than 350€ ~ 500$ ?)

Julien.

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#372

On Sun, 29 May 2011 23:05:39 +0200, Julien asked:
 
> What would you advise ? What trademark to avoid or to consider ? (I
> don't want to put more than 350€ ~ 500$ ?)

If you want a solid work horse color laser printer with PostScript
(which means seamless functionality with Unix and GNU/Linux systems)
then take a look at the HP CP2025N

As always, do extensive web searches to find the best price as the
price can vary considerably eg Cdiscount EUR 269, Viking EUR 455.

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#373

On Sunday 29 May 2011 23:05 in comp.os.linux.hardware, somebody
identifying as Julien wrote...

> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included
> (wifi or just ethernet).
> 
> Laser because I'm fed up with drying ink in cartridge and I don't care
> about printing good quality photos.
> The network is required for me since I have 2 workstations with Debian
> testing x86 32 and 1 Windows Seven 64.
> 
> Ideally, I'd like it works out of the box. Some speak about
> Postscript/PCL compatibility but there are several levels.
> For example native Postscript 3 printers seem to cost a lot.
> Others talked about open source drivers.
> I thought about HP or Brother.

Brother is a good choice.  They support Linux by way of GPL'd drivers
and utilities, available in the typical binary package form -
e.g. .rpm, .deb - or as source code tarballs.

> Samsung have agressive cost but are their printers reliable ?

Reliable, yes, but you have to understand the new marketing strategy of
printer manufacturers.  Printers and multifunctionals are now sold
dirt-cheap, but for inkjet printers, the cost of the ink cartridges is
very high, and for laser devices, the initial toner cartridge contains
less toner than a "refill" cartridge, and the drum typically needs
replacement after the second toner refill.  These drums are usually
more expensive than simply buying a new printer.

> What would you advise ? What trademark to avoid or to consider ?

Avoid Canon at all cost.  Stick with Epson, HP, Brother or Samsung.

> (I don't want to put more than 350€ ~ 500$ ?)

Can't really give you any advice on that.  My Brother HL-760 is already
quite old - 1997! - and my Brother MFC-9880 was given to me for free by
someone who no longer had any use for it and felt that it was
unnecessarily taking up space in his office.

-- 
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

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#374

On Sun, 29 May 2011 23:05:39 +0200, Julien wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>   I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included
> (wifi or just ethernet).
> 
> Laser because I'm fed up with drying ink in cartridge and I don't care
> about printing good quality photos.
> The network is required for me since I have 2 workstations with Debian
> testing x86 32 and 1 Windows Seven 64.
> 
> Ideally, I'd like it works out of the box. Some speak about
> Postscript/PCL compatibility but there are several levels. For example
> native Postscript 3 printers seem to cost a lot. Others talked about

Native Postscript printers cost a lot - period. And they are very hard to 
find any more - nearly all the readily available PS printers run an 
emulator over their native language.

> open source drivers. I thought about HP or Brother.
> Samsung have agressive cost but are their printers reliable ?
> 
> What would you advise ? What trademark to avoid or to consider ? (I
> don't want to put more than 350€ ~ 500$ ?)
> 
> Julien.

I seem to recall recently noting a Brother color laser networkable 
printer - don't recall if they had a multifunction unit. I recommend them 
based on my experiences. I've not had as much experience with Samsung, 
but they seem solid as well.

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#375

On Sun, 29 May 2011 23:05:39 +0200, Julien wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>   I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included 
> (wifi or just ethernet).
> 
> Laser because I'm fed up with drying ink in cartridge and I don't care 
> about printing good quality photos.
> The network is required for me since I have 2 workstations with Debian 
> testing x86 32 and 1 Windows Seven 64.

[...]

> What would you advise ? What trademark to avoid or to consider ?
> (I don't want to put more than 350€ ~ 500$ ?)

I've been using a Lexmark C543dn for well over a year now in a mixed
Linux/Windows environment and am very pleased with it so far. It's
a network printer, has PS3/PCL6/PDF support (PS emulation, but haven't
had any issues whatsoever), separate toners per colour and a duplex unit.
Should be in your price range, unless US prices differ dramatically.
That's a printer only, though, if you want a printer/scanner combo
that'd be the X-series, IIRC.



Andreas
-- 
Dr. Andreas Dehmel                           Ceterum censeo
FLIPME(ed.enilno-t@nouqraz)                  Microsoft esse delendam
http://www.zarquon.homepage.t-online.de          (Cato the Much Younger)

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#385

Le 29/05/2011 23:05, Julien a écrit :
> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included (wifi
> or just ethernet).
...
> What would you advise ? What trademark to avoid or to consider ?
> (I don't want to put more than 350€ ~ 500$ ?)
Hello,

First thank you for your advices.
Here are 2 models I have in mind :
- HP LaserJet Pro CM1415fnw
- Brother DCP-9010CN

If you have pro and cons to tell about them, don't hesitate !

Julien.

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#396

Hi,

On 05/31/2011 11:38 PM, Julien wrote:
> Le 29/05/2011 23:05, Julien a écrit :
>> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included (wifi
>> or just ethernet).
> ...
...

> First thank you for your advices.
> Here are 2 models I have in mind :
> - HP LaserJet Pro CM1415fnw
> - Brother DCP-9010CN


I recently went for the Brother DCP-9010CN and I would highly recommend 
it.  I've tested both the scanning and printing and they both work great.

The only niggle I had was during installation where although the printer 
was found and installed, I needed to hard code it's IP address before it 
worked correctly.  To be fair I didn't spend too long on this, so it may 
well have been possible to fix it some other way. (Installed into 
Slackware 13.37).


-- 
Richard Corden

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#398

On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:05:27 +0200, Richard Corden wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 05/31/2011 11:38 PM, Julien wrote:
>> Le 29/05/2011 23:05, Julien a écrit :
>>> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included
>>> (wifi or just ethernet).
>> ...
> ...
> 
>> First thank you for your advices.
>> Here are 2 models I have in mind :
>> - HP LaserJet Pro CM1415fnw
>> - Brother DCP-9010CN
> 
> 
> I recently went for the Brother DCP-9010CN and I would highly recommend
> it.  I've tested both the scanning and printing and they both work
> great.
> 
> The only niggle I had was during installation where although the printer
> was found and installed, I needed to hard code it's IP address before it
> worked correctly.  To be fair I didn't spend too long on this, so it may
> well have been possible to fix it some other way. (Installed into
> Slackware 13.37).

It's usually a very good idea to give printers a static IP address.

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#409

In article <94pnt5F2tuU16@mid.individual.net>, ray  <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:05:27 +0200, Richard Corden wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 05/31/2011 11:38 PM, Julien wrote:
> >> Le 29/05/2011 23:05, Julien a écrit :
> >>> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included
> >>> (wifi or just ethernet).
> >> ...
> > ...
> > 
> >> First thank you for your advices.
> >> Here are 2 models I have in mind :
> >> - HP LaserJet Pro CM1415fnw
> >> - Brother DCP-9010CN
> > 
> > 
> > I recently went for the Brother DCP-9010CN and I would highly recommend
> > it.  I've tested both the scanning and printing and they both work
> > great.
> > 
> > The only niggle I had was during installation where although the printer
> > was found and installed, I needed to hard code it's IP address before it
> > worked correctly.  To be fair I didn't spend too long on this, so it may
> > well have been possible to fix it some other way. (Installed into
> > Slackware 13.37).
> 
> It's usually a very good idea to give printers a static IP address.

That can be through DHCP, as long as DHCP is tweaked to give out the
same address every time.  That's how I do every computer that's commonly
on my LAN.

-- 
-eben   QebWenE01R@vTerYizUonI.nOetP   royalty.mine.nu:81

And we never failed to fail / It was the easiest thing to do -- CSN

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#410

On Saturday, June 4th, 2011 at 19:20:20h -0400, Hactar wrote:

> That can be through DHCP, as long as DHCP is tweaked to give out the
> same address every time.  That's how I do every computer that's commonly
> on my LAN.

Is that not rather pointless though?

Why not just configure each host to assign its own static IP address
and cut out the overhead of DHCP?

Unless of course all of your hosts are laptops which go a-roaming.

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#411

In article <isena5$ksj$3@dont-email.me>, J G Miller  <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
> On Saturday, June 4th, 2011 at 19:20:20h -0400, Hactar wrote:
> 
> > That can be through DHCP, as long as DHCP is tweaked to give out the
> > same address every time.  That's how I do every computer that's commonly
> > on my LAN.
> 
> Is that not rather pointless though?

Well, if you decide to reconfigure the network, all the static
assignments are in one place rather than scattered across lots of
devices, most of which aren't available at any given time.

For one person and a handful of devices, it's about the same amount of
work as setting static addresses.  For more, DHCP wins.

> Why not just configure each host to assign its own static IP address
> and cut out the overhead of DHCP?

That overhead is only done once per address-timeout (a week, in my
case), at IP-up time.  It's not something that happens with every packet
or anything.

> Unless of course all of your hosts are laptops which go a-roaming.

Some are, and that's where it's of significant benefit.  Some are
printers or print servers.  (Actually my printer doesn't support DHCP.)

-- 
"On two occasions I have been asked, -- 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?'
... I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas
that could provoke such a question." -- Charles Babbage, 1864.

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#415

Hi,

On 06/02/2011 05:17 PM, ray wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Jun 2011 10:05:27 +0200, Richard Corden wrote:
>

...

>> The only niggle I had was during installation where although the printer
>> was found and installed, I needed to hard code it's IP address before it
>> worked correctly.  To be fair I didn't spend too long on this, so it may
>> well have been possible to fix it some other way. (Installed into
>> Slackware 13.37).
>
> It's usually a very good idea to give printers a static IP address.

And this is how I have it setup now.

When installing the printer, the brother software manages to find the 
printer without a static IP.  I assume that there is an alternative 
mechanism, however, once I knew the static IP approach worked I just 
left it.


-- 
Richard Corden

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#423

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 10:10:50 +0200, Richard Corden wrote:

> I assume that there is an alternative mechanism
Yes. There is ARP and RARP. I have seen Microsoft Windows based systems
using that mechanism.

Mark.

-- 
Mark Hobley
Linux User: #370818  http://markhobley.yi.org/

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#405

On 06/02/2011 04:05 AM, Richard Corden wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 05/31/2011 11:38 PM, Julien wrote:
>> Le 29/05/2011 23:05, Julien a écrit :
>>> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included (wifi
>>> or just ethernet).
>> ...
> ...
>
>> First thank you for your advices.
>> Here are 2 models I have in mind :
>> - HP LaserJet Pro CM1415fnw
>> - Brother DCP-9010CN
>
>
> I recently went for the Brother DCP-9010CN and I would highly recommend it.
> I've tested both the scanning and printing and they both work great.
>
> The only niggle I had was during installation where although the printer was
> found and installed, I needed to hard code it's IP address before it worked
> correctly. To be fair I didn't spend too long on this, so it may well have
> been possible to fix it some other way. (Installed into Slackware 13.37).

I got bit by the Brother 9420CN tray #1 bug/scam and would be reluctant
to ever consider Brother brand again.

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#406

On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:25:43 -0400, Joe Beanfish wrote:

> On 06/02/2011 04:05 AM, Richard Corden wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 05/31/2011 11:38 PM, Julien wrote:
>>> Le 29/05/2011 23:05, Julien a écrit :
>>>> I'd like to buy a multifunction color laser with network included
>>>> (wifi or just ethernet).
>>> ...
>> ...
>>
>>> First thank you for your advices.
>>> Here are 2 models I have in mind :
>>> - HP LaserJet Pro CM1415fnw
>>> - Brother DCP-9010CN
>>
>>
>> I recently went for the Brother DCP-9010CN and I would highly recommend
>> it. I've tested both the scanning and printing and they both work
>> great.
>>
>> The only niggle I had was during installation where although the
>> printer was found and installed, I needed to hard code it's IP address
>> before it worked correctly. To be fair I didn't spend too long on this,
>> so it may well have been possible to fix it some other way. (Installed
>> into Slackware 13.37).
> 
> I got bit by the Brother 9420CN tray #1 bug/scam and would be reluctant
> to ever consider Brother brand again.

Would you care to elaborate? I've never heard of that.

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#408

On 2011-06-03, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I got bit by the Brother 9420CN tray #1 bug/scam and would be reluctant
>> to ever consider Brother brand again.
>
> Would you care to elaborate? I've never heard of that.

http://www.fixyourownprinter.com/forums/printer/49233

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