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Re: gps support

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On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 11:02:27 +0200, David Brown wrote:

> On 14/06/2011 16:52, ray wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 13:25:37 +0200, David Brown wrote:
>>
>>> On 13/06/2011 23:23, General Schvantzkoph wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:20:47 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I happened to note today at the local Fred Meyer that they have a
>>>>> bunch of electronic stuff on sale for 30% off. So, started me
>>>>> wondering about support for :
>>>>>
>>>>> tomtom XL340s
>>>>> garmin nuvi 1250
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any direct experience? Web search indicates that garmin
>>>>> devices may be decently supported.
>>>>
>>>> There is no Linux support for Garmins however an XP VM on KVM works.
>>>> The performance of the USB link on KVM is poor, the update to my
>>>> Garmin was an overnight job but it does work. WINE doesn't work, you
>>>> need a Windows VM.
>>>>
>>>> You will need to identify the Garmin's USB port before you attach it
>>>> to the VM, lspci will do the the trick. Once you know which port it
>>>> is you can connect the port to the VM and then boot it, install the
>>>> Garmin software and then reboot it. I don't know if VirtualBox does a
>>>> better job of this because I'm a KVM user.
>>>
>>> I'm a VirtualBox user - USB works very well with it (at least with a
>>> Linux host - guest USB with a Windows host can be unreliable).  I have
>>> no problem using my Garmin GPS within a VirtualBox XP machine, and no
>>> complaints about the speed.
>>
>> No offense, but I don't have an MS license. I'm also of the opinion
>> that if you have to run MS in a virtual machine to accomplish
>> something, then you've gained very little by running Linux in the first
>> place.
> 
> If you don't have a windows license, you can't run windows in a virtual
> machine (well, you /can/, but not legally...).  If you are not running
> windows, you can't use software that requires windows drivers - Wine can
> handle Win32 applications, but not drivers (and ReactOS is not yet very
> stable).

I know that.

> 
> That means you can't use Garmin's GPS's - or at least you can't update
> them via a PC.

Thank you - that's what I wanted to know.

> 
> If you find an alternative GPS maker that has decent support for Linux,
> I'd like to know for future reference - I would much prefer to support a
> manufacturer that supports Linux, and I would prefer not to have to use
> a virtual machine to update it.
> 
> But for now, I have a Garmin GPS and I update it using a Virtual Box
> WinXP machine.  Maybe it's not ideal, but it is practical.  In the real
> world, it is seldom practical (or even possible) to live up to all one's
> ideals.

What is "garmin-gps" supposed to do, then?

> 
> 
> As for the advantages of running Windows in a virtual machine on a Linux
> host - there are /many/ advantages.  For most things, I can use Linux.
> For some things, Windows is the better (or only) platform - so I use
> that.  I sometimes also use different Linux distros within virtual
> machines too - there are lots of good reasons for virtualisation.

I'm sure there are. I have not yet found any I really want to use. I have 
booted a few iso's.

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gps support ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-13 19:20 +0000
  Re: gps support General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-13 21:23 +0000
    Re: gps support Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2011-06-14 07:37 +0200
    Re: gps support David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2011-06-14 13:25 +0200
      Re: gps support ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-14 14:52 +0000
        Re: gps support "Dave {Reply Address In.Sig}" <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2011-06-14 19:23 +0100
          Re: gps support ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-14 22:23 +0000
        Re: gps support Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2011-06-14 23:57 +0200
          Re: gps support ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-14 22:22 +0000
            Re: gps support Jim Whitby <nospam@whitby-jr.org> - 2011-06-14 23:06 +0000
              Re: gps support ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-15 00:29 +0000
          Re: gps support General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-15 03:24 +0000
        Re: gps support General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-14 22:05 +0000
        Re: gps support David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2011-06-15 11:02 +0200
          Re: gps support ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2011-06-15 13:46 +0000
            Re: gps support General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-15 15:44 +0000

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