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| From | Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.os.linux.embedded |
| Subject | Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers |
| Date | 2012-02-14 20:06 -0800 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ejnr09-5hi.ln1@spankydtr.localhost.net> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <xaUZq.22787$rN2.4681@newsfe03.ams2> <jhac32$74o$1@dont-email.me> <zlf_q.46302$kH7.21367@newsfe12.ams2> <jhc1jf$6vg$1@reader1.panix.com> <gIp_q.57055$ar4.17401@newsfe13.ams2> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:31:33 +0000, 7 wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2012-02-13, 7 >> <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> wrote: >>> Tauno Voipio wrote: >>> >>>>>> So let me get this right - /your/ code is perfect, but other >>>>>> developers' code is crap and it's all because of the evil ARM CMSIS >>>>>> library programmers? >>>>> >>>>> Nearly not correct. I have problems with CMSIS librarians who can't >>>>> get their act together right on the issue of giving flags names.. >>>>> And judging by your comments, I probably have a secondary issue now >>>>> with CMSIS librarians not working with compiler makers to sing from >>>>> the same hymn sheet over how named flags should be get implemented >>>>> when read/modify/write operations are requested. >>>> >>>> How about running your code without CMSIS, instead of whining? >>>> >>>> My ARMs have been runnung happily without a bit of CMSIS code. >>> >>> Then you miss the point I made earlier that your code won't be >>> compatible to mine as we would both use different names and methods to >>> access registers. >> >> This may sound a bit flip, but my first response is "so?". >> >> After using ARM parts for over a decade, I have yet to run into the >> requirement that my code be compatible with yours. > > I've had to debug other people's code. Its damn hard if they guy has > written everything their own way Everyone writes code "their own way", even with formal coding standards in place. > and with numbers instead of designated > registers and flag names. Magic numbers are poor coding practice, period. Why aren't you having a word or three with them - or their management? > When a newer model came out, I spec'd the newer software to be written > without use of hard coded numbers. Neat trick. So, if you need to write something to, say, port 39 how do you do it without encoding the number 39 somewhere?
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Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-07 23:43 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers cassiope <fpm@u.washington.edu> - 2012-02-08 09:51 -0800
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-08 19:29 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-02-08 21:37 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-08 21:52 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers "Arie de Muynck" <nospam@nospam.com> - 2012-02-09 08:09 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-02-09 10:50 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-09 21:51 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2012-02-10 15:41 -0500
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2012-02-09 07:44 -0500
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Bob Hauck <postmaster@avalanche.org> - 2012-02-09 08:28 -0500
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-09 23:38 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-02-10 09:26 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-10 19:51 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-02-10 21:51 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-10 23:37 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-13 15:11 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-13 21:30 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-08 19:29 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2012-02-10 21:25 -0800
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-11 09:27 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2012-02-10 21:22 -0800
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-11 09:58 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-02-11 15:16 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-12 00:56 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-02-12 10:24 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2012-02-12 08:21 -0500
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-12 19:12 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2012-02-13 08:54 +0200
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-13 21:37 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-13 22:07 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-13 23:31 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-13 23:31 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-13 23:31 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-02-14 10:35 +0100
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Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-02-14 08:38 -0500
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Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2012-02-14 15:42 -0700
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Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2012-02-13 09:12 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2012-02-11 10:34 -0800
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-25 10:18 +0200
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-02-25 19:34 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-02-27 15:52 +0200
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-02-27 22:04 +0100
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2012-03-03 02:04 +0200
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-03-03 00:20 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2012-03-03 00:06 -0700
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Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-03-04 12:28 +0000
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2012-03-04 09:15 -0500
Re: Reading the Riot Act To ARM's developers 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2012-03-04 21:29 +0000
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