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Re: shred or scrub

From crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.development.system, comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject Re: shred or scrub
Date 2014-04-21 03:51 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <lj2pnm$dqv$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 04/20/2014 06:56 AM, John Hasler wrote:
> crankypuss writes:
>> Given that "environmental static" occurs every time an interaction
>> with the network occurs, every time some devices are heard from, in
>> the elapsed time since the last request for a random number was
>> received on a multi-thread system, the whole idea of having
>> /dev/random block seems pretty silly.
>
> If there is so much entropy available then it will never block, will it?

Depends on the way entropy is collected; it's there, but whether it's 
collected is another question.  To find out if it ever blocks it should 
be easy enough to write a test that hammers it and see.

> On the other hand, if it does block, there wasn't as much entropy
> available *on that particular system* as you thought.  You'd be
> surprised how easy it is to run a low-activity machine out of entropy.

There's a lot of "random" activity in even the tiniest world, but if 
it's ignored there might as well not be any at all.

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  Re: shred or scrub crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-04-17 04:19 -0600
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        Re: shred or scrub crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-04-20 02:47 -0600
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            Re: shred or scrub crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-04-21 03:51 -0600
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                Re: shred or scrub crankypuss <crankypuss@nomail.invalid> - 2014-04-21 06:14 -0600
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