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Re: WTD: UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard

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On Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:11:17 PM UTC-8, Marc Schlensog wrote:
> Steven Hirsch replied to me personally, I hope he doesn't mind that I
> share his valuable information here too:
>
> "A significant number of the UP2000+ boards have chipsets that have
> succumbed to electro-migration in varying degrees.  I gave away my
> system last year to another collector.  It was progressively losing its
> ability to work with multiple memory modules installed and was down to
> 
> 512MB when we parted ways.
> "Even if you can find a working UP2000, don't count on it for long-term 
> reliability."
>
> This is consistent with my experience with a lot of CS20 (which
> basically are UP2000+ systems in a 1U enclosure) and various other 
> reports. While the API systems are to varying degrees* pretty nice on 
> paper, they aren't built to last. The CS20 had another flaw in form of 
> an unreliable PSU.
...
> *) This most certainly doesn't include UP1000 and UP1100 :)

Is this saying that the UP1000/UP1100 isn't nice on paper or don't have the same long-term reliability issues as the UP2000(+) ?

I'd heard several other reports of the UP2000(+) not being long term reliable.  Thanks for confirming. Is the unobtanium UP1500 similarly afflicted?

If someone wanted an Alpha workstation which supports Linux,  what would be the intersection of "fast" (for 2001 era), quiet (workstation), reliable and reasonably obtainable be?   ATX form factor isn't essential,  the UP1500 just sounded like a nice system due to EV68/AGP/DDR.

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WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard tony@tonyjones.com - 2012-11-10 12:11 -0800
  Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-11-10 22:39 +0000
  Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Marc Schlensog <mschlens+news@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 09:37 +0100
    Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard tony@tonyjones.com - 2012-11-11 08:54 -0800
      Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Marc Schlensog <mschlens+news@gmail.com> - 2012-11-12 07:11 +0100
        Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard tony@tonyjones.com - 2012-11-12 15:54 -0800
          Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Marc Schlensog <mschlens+news@gmail.com> - 2012-11-13 10:02 +0100
          Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-13 12:04 +0000
    Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard DiskMan <wlgivens@gmail.com> - 2013-09-27 19:01 -0700
      Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 11:54 -0400

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