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Re: WTD: UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard

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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:54:48 -0800 (PST)
tony@tonyjones.com wrote:

> On Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:37:41 AM UTC-8, Marc Schlensog wrote:
> 
> > The UP2000(+) is, as Robert mentioned, E-ATX
> ...
> > when it comes to the UP1500, you will not be able to pay realistic
> > prices, since those things are collectors items. 
> 
> Appreciate the info. Thanks! The UP1500 isn't anything I personally
> would want badly enough to pay collector pricing on.

Steven Hirsch replied to me personally, I hope he doesn't mind that I
share his valuable information here too:

"A significant number of the UP2000+ boards have chipsets that have
succumbed to electro-migration in varying degrees.  I gave away my
system last year to another collector.  It was progressively losing its
ability to work with multiple memory modules installed and was down to
512MB when we parted ways.

"Even if you can find a working UP2000, don't count on it for long-term 
reliability."

This is consistent with my experience with a lot of CS20 (which
basically are UP2000+ systems in a 1U enclosure) and various other
reports. While the API systems are to varying degrees* pretty nice on
paper, they aren't built to last. The CS20 had another flaw in form of
an unreliable PSU.

b.r.,

Marc

*) This most certainly doesn't include UP1000 and UP1100 :)

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WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard tony@tonyjones.com - 2012-11-10 12:11 -0800
  Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-11-10 22:39 +0000
  Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Marc Schlensog <mschlens+news@gmail.com> - 2012-11-11 09:37 +0100
    Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard tony@tonyjones.com - 2012-11-11 08:54 -0800
      Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Marc Schlensog <mschlens+news@gmail.com> - 2012-11-12 07:11 +0100
        Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard tony@tonyjones.com - 2012-11-12 15:54 -0800
          Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Marc Schlensog <mschlens+news@gmail.com> - 2012-11-13 10:02 +0100
          Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) - 2012-11-13 12:04 +0000
    Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard DiskMan <wlgivens@gmail.com> - 2013-09-27 19:01 -0700
      Re: WTD:  UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2013-09-29 11:54 -0400

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