Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marc Schlensog Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.alpha Subject: Re: WTD: UP1500 or UP2000+ motherboard Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 07:11:13 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 36 Message-ID: <20121112071113.0380e66a@Crunch> References: <56214f6d-8b62-4e21-a4fa-49e62f41481d@googlegroups.com> <20121111093737.6a64132d@Crunch> NNTP-Posting-Host: kXA7g3Pbg8UYPv8/nvkGyw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.alpha:12 On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:54:48 -0800 (PST) tony@tonyjones.com wrote: > On Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:37:41 AM UTC-8, Marc Schlensog wrote: > > > The UP2000(+) is, as Robert mentioned, E-ATX > ... > > when it comes to the UP1500, you will not be able to pay realistic > > prices, since those things are collectors items. > > Appreciate the info. Thanks! The UP1500 isn't anything I personally > would want badly enough to pay collector pricing on. Steven Hirsch replied to me personally, I hope he doesn't mind that I share his valuable information here too: "A significant number of the UP2000+ boards have chipsets that have succumbed to electro-migration in varying degrees. I gave away my system last year to another collector. It was progressively losing its ability to work with multiple memory modules installed and was down to 512MB when we parted ways. "Even if you can find a working UP2000, don't count on it for long-term reliability." This is consistent with my experience with a lot of CS20 (which basically are UP2000+ systems in a 1U enclosure) and various other reports. While the API systems are to varying degrees* pretty nice on paper, they aren't built to last. The CS20 had another flaw in form of an unreliable PSU. b.r., Marc *) This most certainly doesn't include UP1000 and UP1100 :)