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  Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-01 09:23 -0700
    Re: Microsoft record revenues Big Steel <Steel@Steel.com> - 2013-02-02 08:34 -0500
      Re: Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-02 09:46 -0700
        Re: Microsoft record revenues Big Steel <Steel@Steel.com> - 2013-02-02 12:55 -0500
          Re: Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-02 11:48 -0700
            Re: Microsoft record revenues Goblin <bytes4free@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-02 18:53 +0000
              Re: Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-02 15:12 -0700
                Re: Microsoft record revenues Goblin <bytes4free@googlemail.com> - 2013-02-02 22:23 +0000
                  Re: Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-03 10:50 -0700
                Re: Microsoft record revenues flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-02-02 18:32 -0500
                  Re: Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-03 10:51 -0700
                    Re: Microsoft record revenues flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2013-02-03 12:55 -0500
                      Re: Microsoft record revenues GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2013-02-03 13:01 -0700
              Re: Microsoft record revenues DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2013-02-03 17:21 -0500
        Re: Microsoft record revenues Big Steel <Steel@Steel.com> - 2013-02-02 13:26 -0500
      Re: Microsoft record revenues RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com> - 2013-02-02 10:06 -0800
        You can dump Win8's "Start Screen" for whatever.  Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2013-02-02 12:23 -0800
      Re: Microsoft record revenues owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2013-02-02 21:10 +0000

#161843 — Microsoft record revenues

http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/microsoft-fails-to-notice-the-death-of-the-pc-posts-record-revenue-figures-instead/

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#161948

On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/microsoft-fails-to-notice-the-death-of-the-pc-posts-record-revenue-figures-instead/
>
>

I just purchased a new laptop that had Windows 8 Home. I had to upgrade 
to Win 8 Pro due my other laptop with Win 7 Ultimate is falling apart. 
The lid on the old laptop will not stay upright, and the lid needs 
something to hold it up. My briefcase is holding the lid up. :)

One of the requirements for this .NET contract I am working is that you 
had to bring your own laptop to work on this contract with MS, which I 
didn't find out until the first day of work. The only contract I have 
work where the contractor had to bring their own computer. Anyway, I had 
to do a hyper-v on Win 8 Pro to install Win 7 Ultimate. Win 7 is the 
requirement to work the contact from a remote location hook up with the 
client.

Anyway, I like Win 8 Pro. This new laptop is not a touch screen, but it 
doesn't matter, because I can still go to the old desktop when needed. I 
don't see why business users will not migrate to Win 8 pro in a couple 
of years, like they are now migrating to Win 7 from XP or Vista.

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#161977

On 2/2/2013 6:34 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/microsoft-fails-to-notice-the-death-of-the-pc-posts-record-revenue-figures-instead/
>>
>>
>>
>
> I just purchased a new laptop that had Windows 8 Home. I had to upgrade
> to Win 8 Pro due my other laptop with Win 7 Ultimate is falling apart.
> The lid on the old laptop will not stay upright, and the lid needs
> something to hold it up. My briefcase is holding the lid up. :)

You might have to shop around for one of those titanium frame models.
I hear that those are the most durable.

>
> One of the requirements for this .NET contract I am working is that you
> had to bring your own laptop to work on this contract with MS, which I
> didn't find out until the first day of work. The only contract I have
> work where the contractor had to bring their own computer. Anyway, I had
> to do a hyper-v on Win 8 Pro to install Win 7 Ultimate. Win 7 is the
> requirement to work the contact from a remote location hook up with the
> client.
>
> Anyway, I like Win 8 Pro. This new laptop is not a touch screen, but it
> doesn't matter, because I can still go to the old desktop when needed. I
> don't see why business users will not migrate to Win 8 pro in a couple
> of years, like they are now migrating to Win 7 from XP or Vista.

Aren't there minor changes that could derail their daily business 
operations?

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#161992

On 2/2/2013 11:46 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 2/2/2013 6:34 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>> On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/microsoft-fails-to-notice-the-death-of-the-pc-posts-record-revenue-figures-instead/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I just purchased a new laptop that had Windows 8 Home. I had to upgrade
>> to Win 8 Pro due my other laptop with Win 7 Ultimate is falling apart.
>> The lid on the old laptop will not stay upright, and the lid needs
>> something to hold it up. My briefcase is holding the lid up. :)
>
> You might have to shop around for one of those titanium frame models.
> I hear that those are the most durable.
>
>>
>> One of the requirements for this .NET contract I am working is that you
>> had to bring your own laptop to work on this contract with MS, which I
>> didn't find out until the first day of work. The only contract I have
>> work where the contractor had to bring their own computer. Anyway, I had
>> to do a hyper-v on Win 8 Pro to install Win 7 Ultimate. Win 7 is the
>> requirement to work the contact from a remote location hook up with the
>> client.
>>
>> Anyway, I like Win 8 Pro. This new laptop is not a touch screen, but it
>> doesn't matter, because I can still go to the old desktop when needed. I
>> don't see why business users will not migrate to Win 8 pro in a couple
>> of years, like they are now migrating to Win 7 from XP or Vista.
>
> Aren't there minor changes that could derail their daily business
> operations?
>

Businesses could say the same thing when they migrate or have migrated 
from XP or Vista to Win 7. It hasn't stopped anything in the migration 
to Win 7 that I have seen for a company's day2day business. And all the 
companies I have been contracting in are on Win 7 now, including this 
latest client, a state agency that came from XP directly to Win 7.

Other than Office products, most applications for business are not using 
the workstation as a fat client. Fat-client means all aspects of the 
business program are running on the user's workstation.

That doesn't happen anymore in business application development. Now, 
business application development is developed for thin-clients where as 
the bulk of the processing is done in the middle tier/business layer 
and data access layer/database tier in back-end processing.  This makes 
the UI layer running at the client's workstation very thin with very 
little or nothing at all required on the client workstation, which makes 
workstation O/S(s) for the same platform interchangeable for the most part.

Look at the Web application with a Web browser on the client machine and 
a Web server holding the programs for business rule logic and database 
logic as an example. Now it really doesn't matter what O/S is running on 
the user's workstation, right?

Now,  Windows desktop applications Windows applications themselves, 
Windows Presentation Foundation applications or Windows ASP Web based 
applications, even Sliverlight applications are using N-tier where the 
middle-tier/business-tier and the data access tier are sitting on their 
respective servers, and it doesn't matter what the user is using at the 
workstation for the O/S or what kind of application of Windows desktop, 
Windows Presentation Foundation, Sliverlight or ASP.NET UI is using the 
back-end.

You can apply this to smartphone technology for a company that has 
workers in the field that are using a smartphone application, which is 
still just a thin client in this scenario too using the same backend. 
The UI technology is in different domains like Windows, Web browser, 
smartphone having the same business functionality, because business 
functionally and database functionality are not on the client machine, 
which makes the client's machine a dumb machine with a dumb UI, meaning 
no logic for business logic is sitting at the UI tier.

This is what I am talking about. If done correctly, the UI at the user's 
workstation is interchangeable and the UI only needs to know how to 
communicate which as been predefined by the other tiers. Or UI is  not 
interchangeable, but the UI is as dumb as possible that has no logic in 
it.

This was what .NET is bringing to the table. Java is doing it too. Java 
has been doing it for a long time, and .NET has closed the gap in the 
last 12 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitier_architecture


Windows 8 is Win 7 without the tile stuff, and one can still go to the 
desktop that looks like all the other desktops before it if need be. I 
jump back and forth all of the time. The key is to know the Window-Keys 
to move around with Windows 8, which I am still leaning.

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#162004

On 2/2/2013 10:55 AM, Big Steel wrote:
> On 2/2/2013 11:46 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 2/2/2013 6:34 AM, Big Steel wrote:
>>> On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/microsoft-fails-to-notice-the-death-of-the-pc-posts-record-revenue-figures-instead/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I just purchased a new laptop that had Windows 8 Home. I had to upgrade
>>> to Win 8 Pro due my other laptop with Win 7 Ultimate is falling apart.
>>> The lid on the old laptop will not stay upright, and the lid needs
>>> something to hold it up. My briefcase is holding the lid up. :)
>>
>> You might have to shop around for one of those titanium frame models.
>> I hear that those are the most durable.
>>
>>>
>>> One of the requirements for this .NET contract I am working is that you
>>> had to bring your own laptop to work on this contract with MS, which I
>>> didn't find out until the first day of work. The only contract I have
>>> work where the contractor had to bring their own computer. Anyway, I had
>>> to do a hyper-v on Win 8 Pro to install Win 7 Ultimate. Win 7 is the
>>> requirement to work the contact from a remote location hook up with the
>>> client.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I like Win 8 Pro. This new laptop is not a touch screen, but it
>>> doesn't matter, because I can still go to the old desktop when needed. I
>>> don't see why business users will not migrate to Win 8 pro in a couple
>>> of years, like they are now migrating to Win 7 from XP or Vista.
>>
>> Aren't there minor changes that could derail their daily business
>> operations?
>>
>
> Businesses could say the same thing when they migrate or have migrated
> from XP or Vista to Win 7. It hasn't stopped anything in the migration
> to Win 7 that I have seen for a company's day2day business. And all the
> companies I have been contracting in are on Win 7 now, including this
> latest client, a state agency that came from XP directly to Win 7.
>
> Other than Office products, most applications for business are not using
> the workstation as a fat client. Fat-client means all aspects of the
> business program are running on the user's workstation.
>
> That doesn't happen anymore in business application development. Now,
> business application development is developed for thin-clients where as
> the bulk of the processing is done in the middle tier/business layer and
> data access layer/database tier in back-end processing.  This makes the
> UI layer running at the client's workstation very thin with very little
> or nothing at all required on the client workstation, which makes
> workstation O/S(s) for the same platform interchangeable for the most part.
>

I've noticed a lot of that in the medical community.  They are using 
small laptops that are sycned to their main server to keep all their 
data consistent.

All I've seen have moved to Win7 for the present.  The local nursing 
homes have moved to small laptops with touch screens and had to get 
their data synched up to the main server as well.  These are now Win8.

> Look at the Web application with a Web browser on the client machine and
> a Web server holding the programs for business rule logic and database
> logic as an example. Now it really doesn't matter what O/S is running on
> the user's workstation, right?
>
Just as long as they can get the data synched to the main server, it 
really doesn't matter these days.

> Now,  Windows desktop applications Windows applications themselves,
> Windows Presentation Foundation applications or Windows ASP Web based
> applications, even Sliverlight applications are using N-tier where the
> middle-tier/business-tier and the data access tier are sitting on their
> respective servers, and it doesn't matter what the user is using at the
> workstation for the O/S or what kind of application of Windows desktop,
> Windows Presentation Foundation, Sliverlight or ASP.NET UI is using the
> back-end.
>
> You can apply this to smartphone technology for a company that has
> workers in the field that are using a smartphone application, which is
> still just a thin client in this scenario too using the same backend.
> The UI technology is in different domains like Windows, Web browser,
> smartphone having the same business functionality, because business
> functionally and database functionality are not on the client machine,
> which makes the client's machine a dumb machine with a dumb UI, meaning
> no logic for business logic is sitting at the UI tier.
>
> This is what I am talking about. If done correctly, the UI at the user's
> workstation is interchangeable and the UI only needs to know how to
> communicate which as been predefined by the other tiers. Or UI is  not
> interchangeable, but the UI is as dumb as possible that has no logic in it.
>
> This was what .NET is bringing to the table. Java is doing it too. Java
> has been doing it for a long time, and .NET has closed the gap in the
> last 12 years.

Yep... and I noticed that these linux loons figure that linux is on 
billions of devices... I haven't seen any proof of it yet.  What Oracle 
shows are 8 billion devices that use Java... that was what they had 
intended all along.  I think it was orignally called Oak.

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multitier_architecture
>
>
> Windows 8 is Win 7 without the tile stuff, and one can still go to the
> desktop that looks like all the other desktops before it if need be. I
> jump back and forth all of the time. The key is to know the Window-Keys
> to move around with Windows 8, which I am still leaning.
>
>

Wish I were back in the field again.  Retirement has kept me busy along 
with caregiving tho.

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#162006

On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
> Retirement has kept me busy

Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.

I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting 
on Usenet insulting people.

You poor fellow.  You actually have my sympathy.
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#162043

On 2/2/2013 11:53 AM, Goblin wrote:
> On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
>> Retirement has kept me busy
>
> Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.
>
> I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting
> on Usenet insulting people.
>
> You poor fellow.  You actually have my sympathy.

You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for 
Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental 
institution and have your meds adjusted.
LOL!

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#162048

On 02/02/13 22:12, GreyCloud wrote:
>
> You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for
> Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental
> institution and have your meds adjusted.
> LOL!

Oh so I snipped the bit about your retirement? Tell everyone, which bit 
have I missed out that is so important (and you don't feel people will 
have already read as part of the thread)....

I'd love to know there..

You say you are retired? You poor soul, what a way to spend your retirement.

And even when trying to imply that I'd made an "important" snip, you 
prove my point again about your desire to insult:

> clowns like you need to go into a mental institution and have your meds adjusted.

Give it up Greycloud, I think its quite clear to people what you are.

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#162314

On 2/2/2013 3:23 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 02/02/13 22:12, GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>> You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for
>> Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental
>> institution and have your meds adjusted.
>> LOL!
>
> Oh so I snipped the bit about your retirement? Tell everyone, which bit
> have I missed out that is so important (and you don't feel people will
> have already read as part of the thread)....

None of the above.  Right now it is the goal posts screeching.

Now get your meds adjusted, you nutter.

>
> I'd love to know there..
>
> You say you are retired? You poor soul, what a way to spend your
> retirement.
>

Guffaw!!!  Your broken and loopy.


> And even when trying to imply that I'd made an "important" snip, you
> prove my point again about your desire to insult:
>

Guffaw!!!  You are also delusional.

>> clowns like you need to go into a mental institution and have your
>> meds adjusted.
>
> Give it up Greycloud, I think its quite clear to people what you are.
>
Nothing to give up... this a public service announcement that you are 
nuts and need your meds adjusted.

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#162068

On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:12:29 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

> On 2/2/2013 11:53 AM, Goblin wrote:
>> On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Retirement has kept me busy
>>
>> Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.
>>
>> I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting
>> on Usenet insulting people.
>>
>> You poor fellow.  You actually have my sympathy.
> 
> You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for 
> Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental 
> institution and have your meds adjusted.
> LOL!

Goblin is the typical Linux loser.
He fancies himself superior due to his narcissistic tendencies.
What he fails to realize is that most people are laughing at him not
with him.



-- 
flatfish+++
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

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#162315

On 2/2/2013 4:32 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:12:29 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> On 2/2/2013 11:53 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>> On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> Retirement has kept me busy
>>>
>>> Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.
>>>
>>> I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting
>>> on Usenet insulting people.
>>>
>>> You poor fellow.  You actually have my sympathy.
>>
>> You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for
>> Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental
>> institution and have your meds adjusted.
>> LOL!
>
> Goblin is the typical Linux loser.
> He fancies himself superior due to his narcissistic tendencies.
> What he fails to realize is that most people are laughing at him not
> with him.
>
>
>
I've noticed that trait in communists... their main weakness.

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#162323

On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:51:08 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:

> On 2/2/2013 4:32 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:12:29 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/2/2013 11:53 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>> On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Retirement has kept me busy
>>>>
>>>> Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.
>>>>
>>>> I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting
>>>> on Usenet insulting people.
>>>>
>>>> You poor fellow.  You actually have my sympathy.
>>>
>>> You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for
>>> Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental
>>> institution and have your meds adjusted.
>>> LOL!
>>
>> Goblin is the typical Linux loser.
>> He fancies himself superior due to his narcissistic tendencies.
>> What he fails to realize is that most people are laughing at him not
>> with him.
>>
>>
>>
> I've noticed that trait in communists... their main weakness.

Well they all hate capitalism except when it buys them the toys they
like to play with, the home they live in and so forth.

That's why they use Microsoft software by day and unleash their
Microsoft hate by night.


-- 
flatfish+++
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

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#162382

On 2/3/2013 10:55 AM, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:51:08 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>
>> On 2/2/2013 4:32 PM, flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:12:29 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2/2/2013 11:53 AM, Goblin wrote:
>>>>> On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>> Retirement has kept me busy
>>>>>
>>>>> Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting
>>>>> on Usenet insulting people.
>>>>>
>>>>> You poor fellow.  You actually have my sympathy.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to busy editing and snipping posts.  So typical of a liar for
>>>> Lienux.  And besides... clowns like you need to go into a mental
>>>> institution and have your meds adjusted.
>>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Goblin is the typical Linux loser.
>>> He fancies himself superior due to his narcissistic tendencies.
>>> What he fails to realize is that most people are laughing at him not
>>> with him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I've noticed that trait in communists... their main weakness.
>
> Well they all hate capitalism except when it buys them the toys they
> like to play with, the home they live in and so forth.
>
> That's why they use Microsoft software by day and unleash their
> Microsoft hate by night.
>
>
Thus showing their true colors, yet again.

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#162430

On 2/2/2013 1:53 PM, Goblin wrote:
> On 02/02/13 18:48, GreyCloud wrote:
>> Retirement has kept me busy
>
> Busy fouling up COLA with your fellow Microsoft Advocates.
>
> I sincerely hope that when I retire my pastime does not involve posting
> on Usenet insulting people.


That wouldn't be a change from what you do right now, Goob.

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#161998

On 2/2/2013 11:46 AM, GreyCloud wrote:

<snipped>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_features_removed_in_Windows_8

Media Player has no DVD player. There is a sandalone install package for 
Windows Media Center for Windows 8, but no DVD player. It's got DVR.

But you can also can also do this if one needs a DVD player. Luckily, 
Toshiba's download site has a DVD player for Win 8.


http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

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#161995

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 3:34:44 PM UTC+2, Big Steel wrote:
 
> Anyway, I like Win 8 Pro. This new laptop is not a touch screen, but it 
> 
> doesn't matter, because I can still go to the old desktop when needed. I 
> 
> don't see why business users will not migrate to Win 8 pro in a couple 
> 
> of years, like they are now migrating to Win 7 from XP or Vista.

Excellent report BS.  I agree, that once old 'puters run out, people will upgrade to Win8 or higher (I will wait until, as I expect they will, build in the "Start Menu" again at the lower left corner by default).

RL

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#162020 — You can dump Win8's "Start Screen" for whatever. 

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You can dump Win8's "Start Screen" for whatever.

I wrote my own "start button", way better than Win7's "Start";
I never see "Metro" ( the Start Screen ).

I disabled the upper⋅left and upper⋅right hot corners;
because that's where my taskbar is.

Win8 rocks !

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#162026

Big Steel <Steel@steel.com> wrote:
> On 2/1/2013 11:23 AM, GreyCloud wrote:
> > http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/01/microsoft-fails-to-notice-the-death-of-the-pc-posts-record-revenue-figures-instead/
> >
> >

> I just purchased a new laptop that had Windows 8 Home. I had to upgrade 
> to Win 8 Pro due my other laptop with Win 7 Ultimate is falling apart. 
> The lid on the old laptop will not stay upright, and the lid needs 
> something to hold it up. My briefcase is holding the lid up. :)

> One of the requirements for this .NET contract I am working is that you 
> had to bring your own laptop to work on this contract with MS, which I 
> didn't find out until the first day of work.

You dumbass.

> The only contract I have 
> work where the contractor had to bring their own computer. Anyway, I had 
> to do a hyper-v on Win 8 Pro to install Win 7 Ultimate. Win 7 is the 
> requirement to work the contact from a remote location hook up with the 
> client.

> Anyway, I like Win 8 Pro. This new laptop is not a touch screen, but it 
> doesn't matter, because I can still go to the old desktop when needed. I 
> don't see why business users will not migrate to Win 8 pro in a couple 
> of years, like they are now migrating to Win 7 from XP or Vista.

LOL.

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