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| Started by | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| First post | 2017-04-17 14:57 +0000 |
| Last post | 2017-04-17 12:09 -0700 |
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sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-17 14:57 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:04 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-17 15:22 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 08:53 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-17 16:28 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-17 11:55 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 10:13 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:32 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-17 13:14 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 10:30 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 10:01 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 08:25 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 09:29 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 09:35 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-17 19:33 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 12:59 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-17 13:15 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-17 20:41 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-17 19:25 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 02:21 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-17 19:26 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 19:49 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-18 12:54 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 13:13 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 20:35 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 13:52 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-18 15:34 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 22:33 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-18 16:25 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 16:45 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-18 20:51 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 19:16 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-18 21:46 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-18 20:21 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 20:47 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-18 23:53 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 22:08 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-19 00:32 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 09:12 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-19 11:45 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-18 20:34 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 20:56 -0700
Snit digest 423 / 2017-04-19 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-19 06:26 +0000
Re: Snit digest 423 / 2017-04-19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 07:03 -0500
Re: Snit digest 423 / 2017-04-19 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-19 10:06 -0500
Re: Snit digest 423 / 2017-04-19 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-20 06:40 +0000
Re: Snit digest 423 / 2017-04-19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 23:44 -0700
Re: Snit digest 423 / 2017-04-19 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-20 07:00 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-18 19:51 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-19 01:33 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-18 20:39 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 19:18 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-18 20:38 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-19 05:59 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 09:08 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-19 07:16 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-19 12:01 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 09:19 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 09:06 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-19 20:29 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 18:13 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-20 02:25 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 19:45 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-20 01:04 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-19 22:11 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 09:11 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-20 07:13 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-21 10:32 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-21 14:56 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-21 12:35 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-21 17:59 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-22 21:09 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-22 19:03 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-23 07:27 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 13:38 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 09:32 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-24 21:27 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 15:48 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-04-25 05:32 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 08:30 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2017-05-01 06:21 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 09:38 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 10:05 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-21 08:53 -0700
I track you tracking them. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2017-04-20 03:34 -0700
Re: I track you tracking them. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-20 09:40 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-20 08:08 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-23 13:57 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-24 13:45 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 10:51 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-25 13:49 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 10:56 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 08:38 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-25 18:07 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 11:41 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-25 19:11 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-26 06:35 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-26 07:32 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-26 09:09 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 11:01 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 11:49 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-24 14:40 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 12:50 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2017-04-24 19:51 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-24 14:58 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 13:52 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-24 16:21 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 14:34 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 14:56 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-24 17:03 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-24 22:09 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 15:53 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:07 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:24 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:35 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 16:46 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-24 23:51 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 17:37 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-24 19:54 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-25 01:07 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 18:41 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-24 20:50 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 19:00 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-25 15:29 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 08:53 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-25 11:17 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-25 16:24 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-25 11:33 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 12:03 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-25 09:37 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 12:05 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 12:07 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 18:41 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-25 08:24 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-25 10:03 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-25 10:15 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 13:25 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-25 12:35 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E5=90=8D=E8=AA=89=E6=AF=80=E6=90=8D=E3=81=AE=E3=81=9F=E3=8 <invalid@gmail.invalid> - 2017-04-25 19:06 +0200
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:20 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-25 09:23 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Sprang <spring@sprung.invalid> - 2017-04-24 22:30 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 14:25 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-24 12:24 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-24 16:41 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-24 14:13 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-19 09:39 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2017-04-18 15:25 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-18 07:02 -0500
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-17 13:15 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 10:31 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-17 17:55 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 11:24 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-17 19:26 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 16:51 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 00:11 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-17 21:22 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 02:11 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 19:23 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-18 12:00 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 09:06 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-19 14:30 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-19 20:02 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-19 20:47 -0400
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-20 02:31 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-19 19:48 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-18 09:27 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-18 09:57 -0700
Re: sc stands for super computer owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-18 19:58 +0000
Re: sc stands for super computer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-17 12:09 -0700
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-24 18:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D523F771.A190A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411260 |
On 4/24/17, 6:07 PM, in article sz00b.3vy45@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> // snip >> >>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>> user much. >> >> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >> > > They have to clear a path for maciOS. > Unlikely. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-24 20:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gp6dndVpIajRNmPFnZ2dnUU7-TvNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #411260 |
On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> // snip >> >>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>> user much. >> >> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >> > > They have to clear a path for maciOS. Actually, they don't. iOS and MacOS will never intersect. Now if they just gave the Mac a touch screen, a pen and a cellular modem, they'd have something. Instead of running an ARM processor to manage the touch bar that ARM processor should be monitoring events such as a text message or a phone call. If they did that with MacOS such that it could stay on all the time like the iPad can stay on all the time, they'd really have something there. I have an iPad and an iPhone. There are two things I like about both. I never turn them off. They iPad will make a noise and alert me when I get an email. I can leave it in my pack 24 hours a day, seven days week and if I don't turn the display on to actually use it, the battery is hardly touched at all. It will only lose a few percent of power per day. The events are monitors while the CPU is in a very low usage mode. It's pretty much asleep, but still gets events. You put that kind of function into a laptop, and you got me sold. ARM is really on to something here. Thanks to the hundreds of millions of these sold per quarter they keep getting faster and faster while giving better and better battery life. They are very dynamic in terms of CPUs cores being active or not, and being used or shut down to save power. In my opinion the next great feature for the PC is the monitoring of events in real time. Always on, always monitoring. My laptop should get smaller, lighter and yet always be on and always be monitoring. One nice thing about the phone is that we decided it is a phone. We decided it is a communications device. Now we have to allow the PC to *also* become a communications device. That means each PC needs something like a text message capability and an assumed method of reaching the user on the device. If you like, have two sides to the same device. An ARM CPU for events and an Intel CPU for the muscle. But the laptop needs to be on all the time. And iPad with a keyboard pretends to be this but it's missing the functionality of a PC. The PC has the functionality of a PC, but isn't a communications device at its soul the way a smart phone is. I can't leave the laptop on 24 x 7 from battery only. With the iPad I only top it off once ever two or three days and otherwise, it is not plugged in at all. I assume it is not dead because it takes days to kill it with my usage. I don't use it like a PC because it lacks the functions of a PC. It sits in my backpack most of the time, powered on and waiting for me to need it. I still hear it alerting me to events though. I like that part about it. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-24 19:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D523FBDF.A19C3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411268 |
On 4/24/17, 6:50 PM, in article gp6dndVpIajRNmPFnZ2dnUU7-TvNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> // snip >>> >>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>>> user much. >>> >>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >>> >> >> They have to clear a path for maciOS. > > Actually, they don't. iOS and MacOS will never intersect. I find it unlikely as well. > Now if they just gave the Mac a touch screen, a pen and a cellular modem, > they'd have something. They have something now. But, really, as it is, a touch screen would make little sense for macOS (assuming you mean a standard one and not something like the touch bar). > Instead of running an ARM processor to manage the touch bar that ARM processor > should be monitoring events such as a text message or a phone call. If they > did that with MacOS such that it could stay on all the time like the iPad can > stay on all the time, they'd really have something there. Again, they already have something... but I can see doing more. And of course they will over time. Having a low power chip be on all the time (as a choice) does make some sense. > I have an iPad and an iPhone. There are two things I like about both. I never > turn them off. They iPad will make a noise and alert me when I get an email. I > can leave it in my pack 24 hours a day, seven days week and if I don't turn > the display on to actually use it, the battery is hardly touched at all. It > will only lose a few percent of power per day. The events are monitors while > the CPU is in a very low usage mode. It's pretty much asleep, but still gets > events. You put that kind of function into a laptop, and you got me sold. That makes some sense... sure. > ARM is really on to something here. Thanks to the hundreds of millions of > these sold per quarter they keep getting faster and faster while giving better > and better battery life. They are very dynamic in terms of CPUs cores being > active or not, and being used or shut down to save power. > > In my opinion the next great feature for the PC is the monitoring of events in > real time. Always on, always monitoring. My laptop should get smaller, lighter > and yet always be on and always be monitoring. Again, makes sense and I can see Apple going that way with their Macs. > One nice thing about the phone is that we decided it is a phone. We decided it > is a communications device. Now we have to allow the PC to *also* become a > communications device. That means each PC needs something like a text message > capability and an assumed method of reaching the user on the device. If you > like, have two sides to the same device. An ARM CPU for events and an Intel > CPU for the muscle. But the laptop needs to be on all the time. This also assumes constant network activity -- which will happen but for a laptop that is less important than a phone! > And iPad with a keyboard pretends to be this but it's missing the > functionality of a PC. The PC has the functionality of a PC, but isn't a > communications device at its soul the way a smart phone is. I can't leave the > laptop on 24 x 7 from battery only. With the iPad I only top it off once ever > two or three days and otherwise, it is not plugged in at all. I assume it is > not dead because it takes days to kill it with my usage. I don't use it like a > PC because it lacks the functions of a PC. It sits in my backpack most of the > time, powered on and waiting for me to need it. I still hear it alerting me to > events though. I like that part about it. Makes sense. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 15:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <az89c002.av@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #411268 |
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> // snip >>> >>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>>> user much. >>> >>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >>> >> >> They have to clear a path for maciOS. > > Actually, they don't. iOS and MacOS will never intersect. I don't see a convergence of OSes. I do think that macOS will go away and iOS will be wedged onto the Macks as maciOS. > Now if they just > gave the Mac a touch screen, a pen and a cellular modem, they'd have > something. Instead of running an ARM processor to manage the touch bar > that ARM processor should be monitoring events such as a text message or > a phone call. If they did that with MacOS such that it could stay on all > the time like the iPad can stay on all the time, they'd really have > something there. > > I have an iPad and an iPhone. There are two things I like about both. > I never turn them off. They iPad will make a noise and alert me when I > get an email. I can leave it in my pack 24 hours a day, seven days week > and if I don't turn the display on to actually use it, the battery is > hardly touched at all. It will only lose a few percent of power per day. > The events are monitors while the CPU is in a very low usage mode. It's > pretty much asleep, but still gets events. You put that kind of function > into a laptop, and you got me sold. > > ARM is really on to something here. Thanks to the hundreds of millions > of these sold per quarter they keep getting faster and faster while > giving better and better battery life. They are very dynamic in terms of > CPUs cores being active or not, and being used or shut down to save > power. > > In my opinion the next great feature for the PC is the monitoring of > events in real time. Always on, always monitoring. My laptop should get > smaller, lighter and yet always be on and always be monitoring. > > One nice thing about the phone is that we decided it is a phone. We > decided it is a communications device. Now we have to allow the PC to > *also* become a communications device. That means each PC needs > something like a text message capability and an assumed method of > reaching the user on the device. If you like, have two sides to the same > device. An ARM CPU for events and an Intel CPU for the muscle. But the > laptop needs to be on all the time. > > And iPad with a keyboard pretends to be this but it's missing the > functionality of a PC. The PC has the functionality of a PC, but isn't a > communications device at its soul the way a smart phone is. I can't > leave the laptop on 24 x 7 from battery only. With the iPad I only > top it off once ever two or three days and otherwise, it is not plugged > in at all. I assume it is not dead because it takes days to kill it with > my usage. I don't use it like a PC because it lacks the functions of a > PC. It sits in my backpack most of the time, powered on and waiting for > me to need it. I still hear it alerting me to events though. I like that > part about it. > I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and portable monitor will be the way it goes.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 08:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ec656717-724e-4775-bcbc-32684dec5e48@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #411334 |
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 9:29:07 AM UTC-6, owl wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > > On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > >>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> // snip > >>> > >>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing > >>>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, > >>>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" > >>>> user much. > >>> > >>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) > >>> > >> > >> They have to clear a path for maciOS. > > > > Actually, they don't. iOS and MacOS will never intersect. > > I don't see a convergence of OSes. I do think that macOS will > go away and iOS will be wedged onto the Macks as maciOS. > > > > Now if they just > > gave the Mac a touch screen, a pen and a cellular modem, they'd have > > something. Instead of running an ARM processor to manage the touch bar > > that ARM processor should be monitoring events such as a text message or > > a phone call. If they did that with MacOS such that it could stay on all > > the time like the iPad can stay on all the time, they'd really have > > something there. > > > > I have an iPad and an iPhone. There are two things I like about both. > > I never turn them off. They iPad will make a noise and alert me when I > > get an email. I can leave it in my pack 24 hours a day, seven days week > > and if I don't turn the display on to actually use it, the battery is > > hardly touched at all. It will only lose a few percent of power per day. > > The events are monitors while the CPU is in a very low usage mode. It's > > pretty much asleep, but still gets events. You put that kind of function > > into a laptop, and you got me sold. > > > > ARM is really on to something here. Thanks to the hundreds of millions > > of these sold per quarter they keep getting faster and faster while > > giving better and better battery life. They are very dynamic in terms of > > CPUs cores being active or not, and being used or shut down to save > > power. > > > > In my opinion the next great feature for the PC is the monitoring of > > events in real time. Always on, always monitoring. My laptop should get > > smaller, lighter and yet always be on and always be monitoring. > > > > One nice thing about the phone is that we decided it is a phone. We > > decided it is a communications device. Now we have to allow the PC to > > *also* become a communications device. That means each PC needs > > something like a text message capability and an assumed method of > > reaching the user on the device. If you like, have two sides to the same > > device. An ARM CPU for events and an Intel CPU for the muscle. But the > > laptop needs to be on all the time. > > > > And iPad with a keyboard pretends to be this but it's missing the > > functionality of a PC. The PC has the functionality of a PC, but isn't a > > communications device at its soul the way a smart phone is. I can't > > leave the laptop on 24 x 7 from battery only. With the iPad I only > > top it off once ever two or three days and otherwise, it is not plugged > > in at all. I assume it is not dead because it takes days to kill it with > > my usage. I don't use it like a PC because it lacks the functions of a > > PC. It sits in my backpack most of the time, powered on and waiting for > > me to need it. I still hear it alerting me to events though. I like that > > part about it. > > > > I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with > a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and > portable monitor will be the way it goes. Re: Apple: It'll be awhile before they can do the OS convergence but I'm sure it's in their long range plan. Desktop computers aren't needed as much as they used to be by the "average" user. I know I've been saying this for years on end and the desktop crowd doesn't like hearing it but this is the reality. We are currently in a situation where the "average" computer user no longer uses a computer as much as they do a mobile device (phone, table, watch, etc.). Some people just buy the devices now, they don't replace their old computer because the things they did on it are now able to be done 'on the go'. If your text needs are light and you can talk into a device and it transcribes what you're saying, there isn't even a need for a keyboard for that tablet. This moves everything away from even the laptop (which is more portable than a desktop).
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 11:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <3MWdnadtD7Av62LFnZ2dnUU7-U_NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #411334 |
On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> // snip >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>>>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>>>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>>>> user much. >>>> >>>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >>>> >>> >>> They have to clear a path for maciOS. >> >> Actually, they don't. iOS and MacOS will never intersect. > > I don't see a convergence of OSes. I do think that macOS will > go away and iOS will be wedged onto the Macks as maciOS. I will offer a bet of .01565 BTC that we'll never see iOS on a Mac, ever. If I am wrong, you can claim 0.01565 BTC from me. :) >> Now if they just gave the Mac a touch screen, a pen and a cellular >> modem, they'd have something. Instead of running an ARM processor >> to manage the touch bar that ARM processor should be monitoring >> events such as a text message or a phone call. If they did that >> with MacOS such that it could stay on all the time like the iPad >> can stay on all the time, they'd really have something there. >> >> I have an iPad and an iPhone. There are two things I like about both. >> I never turn them off. They iPad will make a noise and alert me when I >> get an email. I can leave it in my pack 24 hours a day, seven days week >> and if I don't turn the display on to actually use it, the battery is >> hardly touched at all. It will only lose a few percent of power per day. >> The events are monitors while the CPU is in a very low usage mode. It's >> pretty much asleep, but still gets events. You put that kind of function >> into a laptop, and you got me sold. >> >> ARM is really on to something here. Thanks to the hundreds of millions >> of these sold per quarter they keep getting faster and faster while >> giving better and better battery life. They are very dynamic in terms of >> CPUs cores being active or not, and being used or shut down to save >> power. >> >> In my opinion the next great feature for the PC is the monitoring of >> events in real time. Always on, always monitoring. My laptop should get >> smaller, lighter and yet always be on and always be monitoring. >> >> One nice thing about the phone is that we decided it is a phone. We >> decided it is a communications device. Now we have to allow the PC to >> *also* become a communications device. That means each PC needs >> something like a text message capability and an assumed method of >> reaching the user on the device. If you like, have two sides to the same >> device. An ARM CPU for events and an Intel CPU for the muscle. But the >> laptop needs to be on all the time. >> >> And iPad with a keyboard pretends to be this but it's missing the >> functionality of a PC. The PC has the functionality of a PC, but isn't a >> communications device at its soul the way a smart phone is. I can't >> leave the laptop on 24 x 7 from battery only. With the iPad I only >> top it off once ever two or three days and otherwise, it is not plugged >> in at all. I assume it is not dead because it takes days to kill it with >> my usage. I don't use it like a PC because it lacks the functions of a >> PC. It sits in my backpack most of the time, powered on and waiting for >> me to need it. I still hear it alerting me to events though. I like that >> part about it. >> > > I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with > a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and > portable monitor will be the way it goes. Well, that's pretty general of a statement. I think they will always improve it. But I don't think they will give it an open accessible file system on par with what the Mac user has on MacOS. And without that, I feel iOS is too limiting for real work. Not to mention, there aren't any dev tools on iOS is there? -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 16:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <azc9003.a@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #411344 |
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> ... >> >> I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with >> a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and >> portable monitor will be the way it goes. > > Well, that's pretty general of a statement. I think they will always > improve it. But I don't think they will give it an open accessible file > system on par with what the Mac user has on MacOS. And without that, I > feel iOS is too limiting for real work. Not to mention, there aren't any > dev tools on iOS is there? > That's the point. If they add those capabilities to iOS, what would they need macOS for? Where is the benefit in maintaining separate OSes?
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 11:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <896dnVoLEqD152LFnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #411355 |
On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> > ... >>> >>> I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with >>> a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and >>> portable monitor will be the way it goes. >> >> Well, that's pretty general of a statement. I think they will always >> improve it. But I don't think they will give it an open accessible file >> system on par with what the Mac user has on MacOS. And without that, I >> feel iOS is too limiting for real work. Not to mention, there aren't any >> dev tools on iOS is there? >> > > That's the point. If they add those capabilities to iOS, what would > they need macOS for? Where is the benefit in maintaining separate > OSes? You give Apple way too much credit. You're making sense and using logic. Have you not learned anything at all about Apple all these years? They will keep these two platforms separate. Forever. They will keep two different products. That's the way they are. It was a miracle we ever got mail.app with a vertical view. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 12:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D524EBAD.A1B4A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411364 |
On 4/25/17, 9:33 AM, in article 896dnVoLEqD152LFnZ2dnUU7-Q-dnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>> On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> >> ... >>>> >>>> I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with >>>> a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and >>>> portable monitor will be the way it goes. >>> >>> Well, that's pretty general of a statement. I think they will always >>> improve it. But I don't think they will give it an open accessible file >>> system on par with what the Mac user has on MacOS. And without that, I >>> feel iOS is too limiting for real work. Not to mention, there aren't any >>> dev tools on iOS is there? >> >> That's the point. If they add those capabilities to iOS, what would >> they need macOS for? Where is the benefit in maintaining separate >> OSes? > > You give Apple way too much credit. You're making sense and using logic. > Have you not learned anything at all about Apple all these years? They > will keep these two platforms separate. Forever. They will keep two > different products. That's the way they are. It was a miracle we ever > got mail.app with a vertical view. It makes sense to keep them separate: * macOS: mouse/ touchpad driver which a "hover" state * iOS: touch screen driven without a "hover" state And of course there are other differences. Over time we may see hardware converge more where it makes sense to have devices do both, and we see MS trying to do this with Windows. So far the success there has been mediocre, at least in my view. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 09:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9a3dda52-859e-42bc-87ac-55ae99a55993@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #411355 |
On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 10:24:41 AM UTC-6, owl wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > > On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >>>>> > ... > >> > >> I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with > >> a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and > >> portable monitor will be the way it goes. > > > > Well, that's pretty general of a statement. I think they will always > > improve it. But I don't think they will give it an open accessible file > > system on par with what the Mac user has on MacOS. And without that, I > > feel iOS is too limiting for real work. Not to mention, there aren't any > > dev tools on iOS is there? > > > > That's the point. If they add those capabilities to iOS, what would > they need macOS for? Where is the benefit in maintaining separate > OSes? Exactly. The "average user" of a "traditional" desktop/laptop computer is going to be, at some point, either a content creator, a developer or a user of niche software which will perform tasks that the "average person" has nothing to do with.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 12:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D524EC07.A1B4C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411355 |
On 4/25/17, 9:24 AM, in article azc9003.a@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> > ... > >>> >>> I think improving the computing experience for mobile devices, with >>> a more capable OS, along with modular accessories like keyboard and >>> portable monitor will be the way it goes. >> >> Well, that's pretty general of a statement. I think they will always >> improve it. But I don't think they will give it an open accessible file >> system on par with what the Mac user has on MacOS. And without that, I >> feel iOS is too limiting for real work. Not to mention, there aren't any >> dev tools on iOS is there? > > That's the point. If they add those capabilities to iOS, what would > they need macOS for? Where is the benefit in maintaining separate > OSes? Adding the complexities of a desktop OS to a screen you can hold in one hand is going to reduce the usability of the handheld device. Until or unless we find away around that we will not see convergence from Apple. We might see a way to run iOS programs on macOS. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 12:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D524EC84.A1B4E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411334 |
On 4/25/17, 8:29 AM, in article az89c002.av@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: >>>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> // snip >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>>>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>>>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>>>> user much. >>>> >>>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >>>> >>> >>> They have to clear a path for maciOS. >> >> Actually, they don't. iOS and MacOS will never intersect. > > I don't see a convergence of OSes. I do think that macOS will > go away and iOS will be wedged onto the Macks as maciOS. What do you even mean by maciOS? Running iOS programs in macOS? Maybe... but the input systems are so different many would not work well. Think of trying to use a gyroscope based game on an iMac! ... -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-24 18:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D523F766.A1909%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411259 |
On 4/24/17, 5:54 PM, in article 47qdnX9xU4bLA2PFnZ2dnUU7-XnNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny" <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote: > On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > // snip > >> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >> user much. > > Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) Yeah, no open source company would do that. How is Unity moving along these days? OpenOffice? Oh. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 08:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <8eHLA.18995$1w7.13558@fx19.iad> |
| In reply to | #411259 |
On 2017-04-24 8:54 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > // snip > >> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >> user much. > > Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those crazy PC guys are doing. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia & EFF Member Gab.ai: @silverslimer "I am not interested in your circus." - Snit Michael Glasser Prescott Circus Guy
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| From | Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 10:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <NNWdnRbYKY-j-GLFnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #411311 |
On 2017-04-25, Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: > On 2017-04-24 8:54 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> // snip >> >>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>> user much. >> >> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) > > I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical > keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but > it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those > crazy PC guys are doing. I love a good mechanical keyboard with good key travel. I also like the Lenovo keyboard on my T450. Lenovo has the best keyboards on laptops in my opinion. Apple would do well to follow their lead. -- Marek Novotny https://github.com/marek-novotny
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 10:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0rpufc5m3qg92o7ilgpdhlh52mo6n5i1vj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #411327 |
Marek Novotny wrote: > Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: >> >> I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical >> keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but >> it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those >> crazy PC guys are doing. > >I love a good mechanical keyboard with good key travel. I also like the >Lenovo keyboard on my T450. Lenovo has the best keyboards on laptops in >my opinion. Apple would do well to follow their lead. I swear by the "ergo" keyboards. P.S. *unplonk* "Slimer" -- 'whenever there is touch labor being invested, if it isn't a "zero" expense, then the "Linux is free" claim becomes untrue.' - lying asshole "-hh"
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 13:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D524FEE6.A1B90%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411328 |
On 4/25/17, 8:15 AM, in article 0rpufc5m3qg92o7ilgpdhlh52mo6n5i1vj@4ax.com, "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > Marek Novotny wrote: > >> Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: >>> >>> I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical >>> keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but >>> it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those >>> crazy PC guys are doing. >> >> I love a good mechanical keyboard with good key travel. I also like the >> Lenovo keyboard on my T450. Lenovo has the best keyboards on laptops in >> my opinion. Apple would do well to follow their lead. > > I swear by the "ergo" keyboards. > > P.S. *unplonk* "Slimer" Interesting to see his trolling of me worked. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 12:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <iVKLA.36443$uf1.36233@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #411327 |
On 2017-04-25 11:03 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: > On 2017-04-25, Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: >> On 2017-04-24 8:54 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> // snip >>> >>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>>> user much. >>> >>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >> >> I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical >> keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but >> it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those >> crazy PC guys are doing. > > I love a good mechanical keyboard with good key travel. I also like the > Lenovo keyboard on my T450. Lenovo has the best keyboards on laptops in > my opinion. Apple would do well to follow their lead. Maybe Lenovo has the best in some models but my wife absolutely despises the one on her thin YogaPro 3. She LOVED the Thinkpads when IBM still made them but what Lenovo has offered her since has been garbage in one way or another. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia & EFF Member Gab.ai: @silverslimer "I am not interested in your circus." - Snit Michael Glasser Prescott Circus Guy
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| From | =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E5=90=8D=E8=AA=89=E6=AF=80=E6=90=8D=E3=81=AE=E3=81=9F=E3=8 <invalid@gmail.invalid> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 19:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1d969df516a98f9855e1699e2f24733b@dizum.com> |
| In reply to | #411327 |
Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: > On 2017-04-25 11:03 AM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, Silver Slimer <sl@im.er> wrote: >>> On 2017-04-24 8:54 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >>>> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: // snip >>>>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me >>>>> pointing out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people >>>>> off but, in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect >>>>> the "average" user much. >>>> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) >>> I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical >>> keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but >>> it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those >>> crazy PC guys are doing. >> I love a good mechanical keyboard with good key travel. I also like >> the Lenovo keyboard on my T450. Lenovo has the best keyboards on >> laptops in my opinion. Apple would do well to follow their lead. > Maybe Lenovo has the best in some models but my wife absolutely despises > the one on her thin YogaPro 3. She LOVED the Thinkpads when IBM still > made them but what Lenovo has offered her since has been garbage in one > way or another. つまり、あなたの妻に満足を与えることはできません。 これはあなたが人種差別的なゴミ杭である理由を説明します 黒人はあなたの妻を覚えています。
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2017-04-25 09:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D524C56B.A1A87%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #411311 |
On 4/25/17, 5:24 AM, in article 8eHLA.18995$1w7.13558@fx19.iad, "Silver Slimer" <sl@im.er> wrote: > On 2017-04-24 8:54 PM, Marek Novotny wrote: >> On 2017-04-25, Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> // snip >> >>> Thanks for the effort. Not a big deal as the post was just me pointing >>> out how Apple dumping Automator would piss some people off but, >>> in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't going to affect the "average" >>> user much. >> >> Apple abandoning something?? No way... ;) > > I think that it's just a matter of time before they abandon physical > keyboards in favour of some hologram crap. It won't work better, but > it'll look so much cooler than using a mechanical keyboard like those > crazy PC guys are doing. > They might have a holographic option, but the feel of physical keyboards cannot be replicated with a holographic one. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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