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Re: Android overtakes Windows

From William Poaster <wp@dev.null>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Android overtakes Windows
Date 2017-04-05 12:55 +0100
Organization Llareggub
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On 5/4/2017 08:28 in comp.os.linux.advocacy, Peter Köhlmann posted:

> DFS wrote:
>
>> On 4/4/2017 6:42 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser snotted:
>>>
>>>> On 4/4/17, 2:47 PM, in article
>>>> -pudnZRtK4rxiXnFnZ2dnUU7-YfNnZ2d@giganews.com, "Marek Novotny"
>>>> <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The counting sites are few and far between. The web browser count does
>>>>>> not reflect the real usage percentage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last year c't (the leading german computer magazine) provided a list
>>>>>> with the browsers / OS accessing their sites.
>>>>>> Linux had nearly 40% of the count, windows slightly below 50%, the
>>>>>> rest divided between OSX, Android and iOS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now c't is a very technical magazine, so their readers tend to be run
>>>>>> linux much more often than "normal" magazines. Also "normal" windows
>>>>>> users tend to be under-represented because of its technical nature
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But 40%? That's quite a number
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly. If the stat counters are looking at sites like Yahoo's
>>>>> Celebrity Gossip that's not likely going to gather a lot of Linux
>>>>> users. I personally go to very few web sites that aren't directly
>>>>> related to Linux/FreeBSD/Solaris or tech. I seriously doubt I am being
>>>>> counted at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> If all the world wants to see are Linux browsers hitting mainstream
>>>>> sites well, I can certainly help that cause with some simply scripts
>>>>> designed to have LINUX go to lots of sites and stack the deck in
>>>>> Linux's favor... Not hard to do.
>>>>
>>>> And given the obsessiveness and cult-like tendencies of many Linux users
>>>> it would not be at all surprising if people are doing this.
>>>
>>> People are not doing this.
>>> What for? People who run linux know why they do that. They are not such
>>> stupid jackasses like DumbFullSnit or Snit Michael Glasser, so insecure
>>> about their choice of OS that they have to invade the groups of a OS they
>>> don't use and post inane shite
>> 
>> This isn't a Linux group and never has been.  From the beginning in '94
>> it was a place for MS-haters to lie and whine.  Move forward 23 years
>> and nothing has changed.
>> 
>> Just a few days ago m4r3K the idiot claimed: "You got the cloud,
>> the web, IoT all of it Linux."
>> 
>> Gawd.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Also it would be *very* easy to detect that lots of page hits come from
>>> the same IP addresses. Every site worth its salt would rather soon filter
>>> those out, because numbers get shifted in ways they don't want
>> 
>> Dolt.  It's easy to write a script that visits random sites, with random
>> timing and length of stay (3 seconds, 10 seconds, 30 seconds, 1 minute,
>> etc).  Such behavior would NEVER be noticed.
>> 
>
> Random sites do not count page hits and report back those numbers

Browser "Market Share" & collating information from web browsers is
*notoriously* difficult. All websites experience different usage &
demographic figures depending on their content & target audience.
There are lies, damn lies and statistics…and then there’s web
statistics. As Marek said, "The web browser count does
not reflect the *real* usage percentage."

> Are you really *that* dense? The ones writing those scripts need to know 
> which sites count and report the stats to make your scenario work

-- 
The troll is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts 
and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: 
his is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
(With acknowledgement to W.S.)

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Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 09:11 -0500
  Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 10:18 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 10:19 -0500
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-03 11:33 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 10:52 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 11:55 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 11:21 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 07:43 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:26 -0400
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:37 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:43 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:13 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:32 -0400
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:34 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 08:58 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 14:56 -0400
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:03 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:15 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 14:49 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:57 -0700
        Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:47 -0400
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:21 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:42 -0700
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:41 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 16:45 -0500
  Re: Android overtakes Windows Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-03 11:31 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 11:58 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 11:01 -0500
      Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 15:25 -0400
      The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 12:59 -0700
        Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2017-04-04 11:52 -0700
          Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 08:25 -0400
            Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:27 -0400
              Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 12:43 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Joe <Negrojoe@cottonpickers.edu> - 2017-04-04 18:52 +0000
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 16:13 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-04-04 18:42 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:45 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:39 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 10:07 -0500
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 11:53 -0400
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 09:23 -0700
                Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 09:34 -0700
            Re: The iPhone is a "GameBoy" for romantic young girls. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 08:57 -0700
  Re: Android overtakes Windows fr314159@gmail.com - 2017-04-03 08:48 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 17:56 +0200
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 08:58 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 11:13 -0500
      Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 15:35 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:39 -0700
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:53 -0700
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Fakey's Puppy Whistle Holder Emeritus 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2017-04-03 15:00 -0500
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 21:40 +0200
          Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:50 -0400
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:50 -0500
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 08:47 +0200
              Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 08:05 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 15:28 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:26 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 16:49 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-04 11:59 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-04 23:36 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-04 16:47 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:57 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-05 00:42 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 18:18 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-04 21:32 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 20:05 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 22:03 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:33 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-05 09:28 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-04-05 12:55 +0100
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 07:37 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 08:43 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:45 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:09 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:26 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-05 07:37 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 09:04 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 10:21 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 08:52 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-05 18:37 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-06 00:42 +0200
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 20:39 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 09:18 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 10:19 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 21:46 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:07 -0700
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 22:02 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-05 08:30 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-05 07:51 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-05 09:06 -0500
                Microsoft owns the "WorkStation" market. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-05 12:46 -0700
                Re: Microsoft owns the "WorkStation" market. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-05 18:38 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:18 -0500
          My VoIP.MS service ( voice and text, cordless and Win10 ) costs pennies per month. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 13:30 -0700
            Re: My VoIP.MS service ( voice and text, cordless and Win10 ) costs pennies per month. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:49 -0500
              What's your AT&T wireless device, if not Android ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 15:31 -0700
                Re: What's your AT&T wireless device, if not Android ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 17:45 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 16:35 -0400
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2017-04-03 22:44 +0200
              Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:55 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:53 -0400
                Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2017-04-03 17:44 -0700
                Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:12 -0700
                Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:59 -0500
                Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 19:07 -0700
                Re: Not everyone who disagrees with you is insane. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-04 10:28 -0400
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:53 -0500
                Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:56 -0700
              Re: Android overtakes Windows William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2017-04-03 23:10 +0100
            Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 15:52 -0500
              Re: Android overtakes Windows chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-04 07:53 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:45 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Silver-Tongued Heel <sl@im.er> - 2017-04-03 17:44 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 16:35 -0400
  Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 11:16 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 14:22 -0500
      Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:32 -0700
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-04-03 12:45 -0700
  Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 14:55 -0400
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 12:00 -0700
    Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 14:29 -0500
      Re: Android overtakes Windows DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2017-04-03 19:49 -0400
        Re: Android overtakes Windows Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-04-03 20:38 -0500
          Re: Android overtakes Windows Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 18:52 -0700

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