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Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating?

From	Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating?
Date	2012-06-15 21:15 +0200
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On 06/15/2012 07:46 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 6/15/2012 12:37 PM, Ian Hilliard wrote:
>> On 06/15/2012 01:51 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>> Ian Hilliard<nospam@nospam.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 06/15/2012 12:44 AM, DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2012 3:36 PM, Ian Hilliard wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/14/2012 08:20 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>>>>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/13/2012 11:14 PM, Hadron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> DFS<nospam@dfs.com> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To each his own. The world has rejected desktop Linux for the
>>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>> 15 or so
>>>>>>>>>> years... for a reason.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not the world. It suits me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can a kernel suit you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh, in this post Linux is the operating system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't be like (p)Rick; it doesn't suit you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? You lost me there. Im the one in this thread or elsewhere that
>>>>>>> pointed out Linux itself isnt an OS.... but only to annoy the
>>>>>>> "advocates" because Journalists were not giving credit to
>>>>>>> Stallman...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Hil'liar'd seems confused.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's a dishonest little shit. He worked for Siemens, so he had to
>>>>>>>> know Windows
>>>>>>>> is used in lots of industrial settings.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You do love to display your ignorance. Siemens is made of of
>>>>>> hundreds of
>>>>>> separate companies with over 500,000 employees.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Every last bit of software I found on siemens.com was for Windows. All
>>>>> of it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Has it not occurred to you that not everything that Siemens produces
>>>> in on
>>>> Siemens.com?
>>>>
>>>> I really hate wilful ignorance.
>>>>
>>>> Ian
>>>>
>>>
>>> Has it not occurred to your big head that not seeing anything other than
>>> Windows certainly dispels your claim that you and they "only use
>>> linux". You're a fucking idiot Hilliard.
>>>
>>
>> You are really slow, aren't you. I don't work for Siemens any more and
>> haven't for years.
>
>
> But you did work for Siemens, so you had to have known their industrial
> software was Windows-based.
>
>
> Siemens conveyor and material handling systems.
> http://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/topics/en/conveyor-technology/Documents/conveyor_brochure.pdf
>
>
> Page 13: Controls, I/O, Software
>
> PLC programming software for the entire SIMATIC controller range
> www.siemens.com/simatic-software
>
> PC-based automation, including embedded controllers and PCs: all Windows
> and Windows Embedded
> https://eb.automation.siemens.com/goos/catalog/Pages/ProductData.aspx?catalogRegion=WW&language=en&nodeid=10001340&tree=CatalogTree&regionUrl=/#activetab=product&
>
>
>
> Page 14: Industrial PCs
>
> http://www.automation.siemens.com/mcms/pc-based-automation/en/industrial-pc/Pages/Default.aspx
>
>
> Rack PCs: 64-bit Win 7 and/or Win Server 2008 R2
> Box PCs: XP, Win7, or Win Embedded
> Panel PCs: XP and Win Embedded
> RTOS - RMOS3: GNU tools, hosted on Windows only
>
>
> Also:
> Engineering SW:
> http://www.industry.siemens.com/topics/global/en/tia-portal/hmi-sw-tia-portal/wincc-tia-portal-es/system-requirements/Pages/Default.aspx
>
>
> Runtime SW:
> http://www.industry.siemens.com/topics/global/en/tia-portal/hmi-sw-tia-portal/wincc-tia-portal-rt/system-requirements/Pages/Default.aspx
>
>
> And so on and so on.
>

Are you trying to prove that you are as slow as everyone thinks?

Do you really believe that the Siemens Telecommunications or safety 
critical systems actually use Windows?

Siemens is a gigantic company. I did not work in the division that made 
their process controllers. Unless I actually needed to use one of the 
Siemens process controllers for one of my projects, which I did not, I 
may have known. But, I never did, nor did I really care.

We used what was best for our division.

Please stop harping on this issue. You are simply making yourself look 
more and more stupid.

Ian

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Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-13 22:31 -0400
  Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 05:14 +0200
    Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-14 12:50 -0400
      Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-14 20:20 +0200
        Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-14 21:36 +0200
          Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-14 15:02 -0500
            Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-14 18:46 -0400
          Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-14 18:44 -0400
            Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-15 08:36 +0200
              Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-15 13:51 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-15 18:37 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-15 13:46 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-15 14:58 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-15 21:23 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-15 15:30 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-15 17:31 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-15 17:33 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-16 00:12 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-15 18:20 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-15 18:25 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-16 07:26 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-16 12:33 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-17 12:18 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-17 08:28 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-17 12:23 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-17 18:58 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-18 00:30 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 11:45 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2012-06-18 11:43 +0200
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-18 07:53 -0500
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-18 09:43 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-15 21:15 +0200
              Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2012-06-15 07:48 -0500
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Foster <frankfoster50@yahoo.com> - 2012-06-15 08:59 -0400
                Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2012-06-15 08:26 -0700
  Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Ian Hilliard <nospam@nospam.org> - 2012-06-14 19:06 +0200
    Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc@xzoozy.com> - 2012-06-14 16:55 -0400
    Re: Ok, why is Ubuntu not updating? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2012-06-15 11:29 -0400

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