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Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.mobile.android, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app
Date 2025-03-16 18:16 +0000
Organization BWH Usenet Archive (https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com)
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 18:00:37 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote :


> We have a detailed thread over here that shows you can instantly negate the
> DataSetIdentifier (DSID) cookie by a simple action that is trivial to do.
>  *Google Android "DSID" cookie, Android ID & Android System SafetyCore*
>  <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
>  <https://newsgrouper.org/comp.mobile.android/121580/0>
>  <https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/JedCXG9A/google-android-dsid-cookie-android-id-android-system-safetycore>

Ooops. I apologize to RetroGuy! I didn't realize the RetroGuy was one of
the respondents, where I greatly admire The RetroGuy for what he does for
us (e.g., his archives are the best - and I respect him for doing that!)
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=alt.comp.os.windows-10>
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=,alt.privacy.anon-server>
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.mobile.android>
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=comp.os.linux.advocacy>

However, my reaction equating those who claim that you can't have privacy
to those who claim you must be slaves is based on facts about privacy.

You can have privacy.
You just have to NOT do exactly what the marketing orgs tell you to do.

You have to think for yourself.
Don't blindly accept all the defaults when setting up a system.

Think about what you're doing.
Make liberal use of that 'skip' button.

The fact that people make the claim that you can't have privacy bothers me
so much that I react vehemently to anyone who says "you can't have privacy"
on Android, since you have far more privacy on Android than on iOS simply
because an Android phone works 10x better (my guesstimate) after you hit
the skip button, while on iOS devices (which I have plenty of) the device
works 1/10th as well when you don't set it up with an Apple Account. 

Ask me how I know this fact.
 *Google Android  "DSID" cookie, Android ID & Android System SafetyCore*
 <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=57594&group=comp.mobile.android#57594>

There's more functionality on (non-rooted) Android when you hit that skip
button, and when you replace the Google Apps with their 1:1 equivalents.

Just *look* at the functionality of this search app, for example:
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scadica.aq>

Which I get, for free, with full functionality, simply because I hit the
"skip" button, so no app has any way to directly charge me for anything.
 <https://skyica.com/appfinder/get/>

If that app doesn't have over 10 times the functionality of the Google Play
Store search engine, I'll never again post to Usenet. It's that good.

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How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app anon <anon@invalid.info> - 2025-03-16 14:22 +0100
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.org> - 2025-03-16 13:47 +0000
    Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-16 10:20 -0400
      Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-16 18:00 +0000
        Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-16 18:16 +0000
          Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-16 19:06 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-16 20:51 +0000
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:04 +0000
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 20:55 +0000
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app black hats <tipped@partners.invalid> - 2025-03-18 09:52 +0100
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 12:56 +0100
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 13:27 +0000
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:55 +0100
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:13 +0000
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:30 +0100
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 15:59 +0000
                Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-03-17 18:33 +0000
        Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 12:59 +0100
          Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 21:07 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-18 20:25 +0100
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 01:44 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-03-20 17:33 +0100
    Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-16 11:10 -0400
      Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 13:01 +0100
        Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-17 12:05 -0400
          Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:33 +0100
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-17 21:16 +0000
            Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-18 16:38 -0400
              Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-19 03:13 +0000
      Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-17 14:43 +0100
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2025-03-16 17:28 -0400
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-18 12:09 +0100
    Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-18 14:37 +0000
  Re: How Google tracks Android device users before they've even opened an app CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-18 10:56 -0400

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