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From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
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Subject Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...)
Date 2025-02-05 20:59 -0500
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On Wed, 2/5/2025 7:11 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 02:10:53 -0500, Paul wrote:
> 
>> The equivalent of Linux FUSE, is Windows IFS.
>>
>> One of the first popular instances, was EXT2IFS which I had installed on
>> WinXP.
> 
> Do you have ext3 or ext4 support?
> 
> No? This IFS thing doesn’t seem to be used much.

The person who wrote that (EXT2IFS), didn't seem interested in maintaining it forever.
It seemed more of a demo of IFS.

I don't know if source was released or not.

But you can see similar problems with Dokan. Someone will crank
out an item, his two friends use it, and nobody else wants to
test it. There are momentum problems of one sort or another,
with the concept. Maybe it has something to do with the
skill level of the customers (the audience is not
100% dev-class users). I don't know what the attack surface
is like on items like that.

I think there is at least one commercial offering, but
I don't know if the developer is rich yet :-) People do
fiddle with adding stuff to Windows, but they lack the
marketing muscle to make a real dent.

   https://www.mtpdrive.com/purchase.html

And that's not in the Microsoft Store.

These offerings have likely been around for a while.

   https://www.paragon-software.com/home/linuxfs-windows/

*******

wmic diskdrive list brief

To mount a partition:

wsl --mount [DiskPath] --partition [PartitionNumber]

And apparently, that gives access to an EXT4 via Windows Subsystem for Linux.

No, I'm not interested in testing that :-) If I were to
entertain such a thing, it would have to be integrated at
desktop level, not in some maze of twisty virtualized passages.
Via $$WSL, you could make that appear on your Windows Desktop.

The thing is, why go for these novelty items, when I can reach
across the room and have whatever I want ? Toys are just a
LAN address away.

*******

# Example of WSL command line options:

> wsl --help
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
For privacy information about this product please visit https://aka.ms/privacy.

Usage: wsl.exe [Argument] [Options...] [CommandLine]

Arguments for running Linux binaries:

    If no command line is provided, wsl.exe launches the default shell.

    --exec, -e <CommandLine>
        Execute the specified command without using the default Linux shell.

    --shell-type <standard|login|none>
        Execute the specified command with the provided shell type.

    --
        Pass the remaining command line as-is.

Options:
    --cd <Directory>
        Sets the specified directory as the current working directory.
        If ~ is used the Linux user's home path will be used. If the path begins
        with a / character, it will be interpreted as an absolute Linux path.
        Otherwise, the value must be an absolute Windows path.

    --distribution, -d <DistroName>
        Run the specified distribution.

    --distribution-id <DistroGuid>
        Run the specified distribution ID.

    --user, -u <UserName>
        Run as the specified user.

    --system
        Launches a shell for the system distribution.

Arguments for managing Windows Subsystem for Linux:

    --help
        Display usage information.

    --debug-shell
        Open a WSL2 debug shell for diagnostics purposes.

    --install [Distro] [Options...]
        Install a Windows Subsystem for Linux distribution.
        For a list of valid distributions, use 'wsl.exe --list --online'.

        Options:
            --enable-wsl1
                Enable WSL1 support.

            --from-file <Path>
                Install a distribution from a local file.

            --legacy
                Use the legacy distribution manifest.

            --location <Location>
                Set the install path for the distribution.

            --name <Name>
                Set the name of the distribution.

            --no-distribution
                Only install the required optional components, does not install a distribution.

            --no-launch, -n
                Do not launch the distribution after install.

            --version <Version>
                Specifies the version to use for the new distribution.

            --web-download
                Download the distribution from the internet instead of the Microsoft Store.

    --manage <Distro> <Options...>
        Changes distro specific options.

        Options:
            --move <Location>
                Move the distribution to a new location.

            --set-sparse, -s <true|false>
                Set the vhdx of distro to be sparse, allowing disk space to be automatically reclaimed.

            --set-default-user <Username>
                Set the default user of the distribution.

    --mount <Disk>                                                                           <===
        Attaches and mounts a physical or virtual disk in all WSL 2 distributions.

        Options:
            --vhd
                Specifies that <Disk> refers to a virtual hard disk.

            --bare
                Attach the disk to WSL2, but don't mount it.

            --name <Name>
                Mount the disk using a custom name for the mountpoint.

            --type <Type>
                Filesystem to use when mounting a disk, if not specified defaults to ext4.

            --options <Options>
                Additional mount options.

            --partition <Index>                                                                <===
                Index of the partition to mount, if not specified defaults to the whole disk.

    --set-default-version <Version>
        Changes the default install version for new distributions.

    --shutdown
        Immediately terminates all running distributions and the WSL 2
        lightweight utility virtual machine.

    --status
        Show the status of Windows Subsystem for Linux.

    --unmount [Disk]
        Unmounts and detaches a disk from all WSL2 distributions.
        Unmounts and detaches all disks if called without argument.

    --uninstall
        Uninstalls the Windows Subsystem for Linux package from this machine.

    --update
        Update the Windows Subsystem for Linux package.

        Options:
            --pre-release
                Download a pre-release version if available.

    --version, -v
        Display version information.

Arguments for managing distributions in Windows Subsystem for Linux:

    --export <Distro> <FileName> [Options]
        Exports the distribution to a tar file.
        The filename can be - for stdout.

        Options:
            --format <Format>
                Specifies the export format. Supported values: tar, tar.gz, vhd.

    --import <Distro> <InstallLocation> <FileName> [Options]
        Imports the specified tar file as a new distribution.
        The filename can be - for stdin.

        Options:
            --version <Version>
                Specifies the version to use for the new distribution.

            --vhd
                Specifies that the provided file is a .vhdx file, not a tar file.
                This operation makes a copy of the .vhdx file at the specified install location.

    --import-in-place <Distro> <FileName>
        Imports the specified .vhdx file as a new distribution.
        This virtual hard disk must be formatted with the ext4 filesystem type.

    --list, -l [Options]
        Lists distributions.

        Options:
            --all
                List all distributions, including distributions that are
                currently being installed or uninstalled.

            --running
                List only distributions that are currently running.

            --quiet, -q
                Only show distribution names.

            --verbose, -v
                Show detailed information about all distributions.

            --online, -o
                Displays a list of available distributions for install with 'wsl.exe --install'.

    --set-default, -s <Distro>
        Sets the distribution as the default.

    --set-version <Distro> <Version>
        Changes the version of the specified distribution.

    --terminate, -t <Distro>
        Terminates the specified distribution.

    --unregister <Distro>
        Unregisters the distribution and deletes the root filesystem.

And this is an example of a wmic output for a disk.

wmic diskdrive list brief

Caption                  DeviceID            Model                    Partitions  Size
Samsung SSD 870 EVO 4TB  \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0  Samsung SSD 870 EVO 4TB  6           4000784417280

wsl --mount \\.\PHYSICALDRIVE0 --partition 4

Then later in your session. Or even in your session in another
Terminal window.

cd /mnt/wsl/...     <=== discretionary mount space, populated by the previous command
cd /mnt/c           \
cd /mnt/d            \__ Mounted "windows letters" for your session, which is how
cd /mnt/e            /   sessions have been offered from the beginning. /mnt/c/users/paul/Downloads
cd /home/paul       # Inside the VHDX file, under the slash file system

df                  # Should be able to see all that is on offer.

( More at     https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-mount-disk     )

   Paul

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                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 23:14 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-06 20:22 +0100
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 20:57 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-07 21:50 +0100
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 03:27 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 03:21 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:07 +0100
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 03:20 +0000
            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-01 05:40 +0000
  Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-01 16:34 +0100
    Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-01 16:29 +0000
      Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-01 18:10 +0000
        Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 15:44 +0100
          Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-03 10:40 +0000
            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 15:14 +0100
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 10:01 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 13:22 +0100
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 19:51 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 23:12 +0100
      Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 15:24 +0100
        Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:50 +0100
          Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 16:04 +0100
            [meta] posting mistake Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 16:26 +0100
            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-02 16:29 +0000
              ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-02 16:37 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-03 09:14 +0000
              ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 15:16 +0100
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:59 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 10:23 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 22:48 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:16 +0100
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:57 +0000
            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 19:00 +0000
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 22:01 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-05 18:50 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 14:26 -0500
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:16 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-06 20:50 +0000
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:58 -0500
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-04 01:15 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-04 00:24 -0500
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-04 21:40 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-04 22:11 +0000
              External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 02:24 +0100
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-04 22:06 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 04:41 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 04:43 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 02:10 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 17:40 +0100
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-05 18:50 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:11 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 20:59 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 03:04 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 22:48 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 21:00 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-06 16:20 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 22:42 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 00:44 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 06:00 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 17:38 +0100
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:06 +0000
          Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:56 +0000
        A little bit of discussion between Janis and me (Was: Stupid    suggestion(s) for "portable" "memory" using Windows & Android "editors") gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-02 14:53 +0000
    Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 20:59 +0100
  Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 22:54 +0000

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