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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.editors |
| Subject | Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors |
| Date | 2025-02-04 23:12 +0100 |
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Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 2025-02-04 20:51, Marion wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 13:22:53 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote :
>
>
>>> BTW, my version of Ghost Commander is v1.62.3 and when I click on the
>>> Help
>>> from inside of that app, it takes me to that URL so it's legitimate.
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/ghostcommander1/>
>>
>> I wondered, because it is full of things about the war in Ukraine.
>> Photos of the app are gone.
>
> Hi Carlos,
>
> Yes, I agree. It's funny looking. Both the URL & that political web page.
>
> But you don't even need that page since the Sourceforge link has the APK.
> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/ghostcommander/files/latest/download>
>
>>> What I do NOT understand is why I see *both* the 0000-0001 that Windows
>>> formatted and a crytic AAAA-BBBB style identifier (which I can
>>> presume was
>>> the original label name).
>>
>> No, that's probably the UUID.
>
> Well, I have no idea what it is, but looking up the format of a UUID,
> apparently the Universally Unique Identifier is a 128-bit number.
«A UUID (Universally Unique Identifier) is a 128-bit number for a file system that is unique on both the local system and across other systems. It is randomly generated with system hardware information and time stamps as part of its seed.»
<https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP6/html/SLES-all/cha-uuid.html>
BUT, Windows often creates them much smaller
>
> UUIDs are typically displayed as a 36-character string, divided into five
> sections separated by hyphens, e.g., f43ca10b-68dc-4372-d567-0b02f2a3d48f
>
> Maybe it's a shortened UUID, but it looks suspiciously like a default
> volume name (aka volume label); but I didn't write down the original name.
Yes.
>
> The question would be how to list out the UUID on Android or Windows?
Dunno, but "good" partition software should display it.
>
>>> How can there be two volume labels to the same sdcard in Android?
>>> <https://i.postimg.cc/v8z1hhKn/ghostcommander.jpg>
>
> Googling, it seems sdcards don't have UUIDs anyway as they have the Card
> Identification (CID) register (which we've discussed prior in this thread).
They do have uuid, it is part of the filesystem definition.
I have just inserted an USB stick with mp3 files, and I get this info:
Telcontar:~ # l /dev/disk/by-label/ | grep sde
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 21:09 CORSA_3 -> ../../sde1
Telcontar:~ # l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | grep sde
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 21:09 0012-D687 -> ../../sde1
Telcontar:~ #
That uuid probably comes from the manufacturer, mine would be much longer.
I can try a photo card later, I have to go out now.
[...]
Let's look at another stick with 3 partitions:
Telcontar:~ # l /dev/disk/by-label/ | grep sde
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:32 BOOT -> ../../sde2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:32 cow -> ../../sde3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:32 openSUSE_Leap_15.5_Rescue_CD -> ../../sde1
Telcontar:~ #
Telcontar:~ # l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | grep sde
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:32 16b287b0-7acb-4de1-8c5c-31e9c00e34dd -> ../../sde3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:32 2023-05-13-10-55-37-00 -> ../../sde1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:32 AD92-FD47 -> ../../sde2
Telcontar:~ #
An storage card from my camera (formatted by the camera itself):
Telcontar:~ # l /dev/disk/by-label/ | grep sdf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:34 LUMIX -> ../../sdf1
Telcontar:~ # l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | grep sdf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Feb 4 22:34 ED50-11FC -> ../../sdf1
Telcontar:~ #
Now look at the information given by lsblk, which is very exhaustive (long lines, wrap disabled):
Telcontar:~ # lsblk --output NAME,KNAME,RA,RM,RO,PARTFLAGS,SIZE,TYPE,FSTYPE,LABEL,PARTLABEL,PTTYPE,MOUNTPOINT,UUID,PARTUUID,WWN,VENDOR,MODEL,SERIAL,REV,ZONED,ALIGNMENT /dev/sdf
NAME KNAME RA RM RO PARTFLAGS SIZE TYPE FSTYPE LABEL PARTLABEL PTTYPE MOUNTPOINT UUID PARTUUID WWN VENDOR MODEL SERIAL REV ZONED ALIGNMENT
sdf sdf 512 1 0 59.5G disk dos Generic STORAGE DEVICE 000000082 TS26 none 0
└─sdf1 sdf1 512 1 0 59.5G part exfat LUMIX dos ED50-11FC none 0
Telcontar:~ #
This is the list of available fields:
Available output columns:
NAME device name
KNAME internal kernel device name
PATH path to the device node
MAJ:MIN major:minor device number
FSAVAIL filesystem size available
FSSIZE filesystem size
FSTYPE filesystem type
FSUSED filesystem size used
FSUSE% filesystem use percentage
FSROOTS mounted filesystem roots
FSVER filesystem version
MOUNTPOINT where the device is mounted
MOUNTPOINTS all locations where device is mounted
LABEL filesystem LABEL
UUID filesystem UUID
PTUUID partition table identifier (usually UUID)
PTTYPE partition table type
PARTTYPE partition type code or UUID
PARTTYPENAME partition type name
PARTLABEL partition LABEL
PARTUUID partition UUID
PARTFLAGS partition flags
RA read-ahead of the device
RO read-only device
RM removable device
HOTPLUG removable or hotplug device (usb, pcmcia, ...)
MODEL device identifier
SERIAL disk serial number
SIZE size of the device
STATE state of the device
OWNER user name
GROUP group name
MODE device node permissions
ALIGNMENT alignment offset
MIN-IO minimum I/O size
OPT-IO optimal I/O size
PHY-SEC physical sector size
LOG-SEC logical sector size
ROTA rotational device
SCHED I/O scheduler name
RQ-SIZE request queue size
TYPE device type
DISC-ALN discard alignment offset
DISC-GRAN discard granularity
DISC-MAX discard max bytes
DISC-ZERO discard zeroes data
WSAME write same max bytes
WWN unique storage identifier
RAND adds randomness
PKNAME internal parent kernel device name
HCTL Host:Channel:Target:Lun for SCSI
TRAN device transport type
SUBSYSTEMS de-duplicated chain of subsystems
REV device revision
VENDOR device vendor
ZONED zone model
DAX dax-capable device
For more details see lsblk(8).
Or, we can look at the fdisk output:
Telcontar:~ # fdisk -l /dev/sdf
Disk /dev/sdf: 59.48 GiB, 63864569856 bytes, 124735488 sectors
Disk model: STORAGE DEVICE
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00000000 <========
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdf1 32768 124735487 124702720 59.5G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
Telcontar:~ #
Those are all the identifiers I know about. I can not obtain the "smart" information, if it exists, because "/dev/sdf: Unknown USB bridge [0x8564:0x4000 (0x026)]"
>
> That CID register is a 128-bit code includes the card serial number,
> manufacturer ID, and manufacturing date (plus a checksum).
I don't know about that, but you can see in the output from lsblk a vendor, model, serial, and revision (it is in fact a Sandisk card, but the card reader could be interfering.
>
> CID Structure (128 bits total)
> Manufacturer ID (MID): 8 bits - (e.g., SanDisk, Kingston)
> OEM/Application ID (OID): 16 bits - OEM or application
> Product Name (PNM): 5-character ASCII string for the product name
> Product Revision (PRV): 8 bits for the product revision number
> Product Serial Number (PSN): 32 bits - A unique serial number
> Manufacturing Date (MDT): 12 bits - year & month of manufacture
> CRC7 checksum: 7 bits - Used for error detection
>
> Here is an example CID in hex that I found by searching for data.
> 03 53 44 53 55 30 34 47 10 0B 75 BC D0 23 8A
>
> Here is what that manually translates into:
> Manufacturer: SanDisk (MID: 0x03)
> OEM/Application ID: SD (OID: 0x5344)
> Product Name: SU04G (PNM: 0x5355303447)
> Product Revision: 1.0 (PRV: 0x10)
> Serial Number: 12345678 (PSN: 0x0B75BCD0)
> Manufacturing Date: August 2023 (MDT: 0x238)
> CRC7 Checksum: 10 in decimal (CRC: 0X67)
>
> I think the number shown by Android is sufficiently different so as not to
> likely be the CID, but more likely to be the original Volume Label instead.
No, they show the uuid.
>
> The problem is two fold, of course, in UNDERSTANDING what is going on.
> a. Why didn't Windows sufficiently wipe out the old volume name?
> b. Why do some Android apps display one, or the other, or both names?
Each time you format, a new uuid is generated. For some reason, Windows creates a short one, and it is possibly the same as the label.
Google says:
Windows device: Open an administrator command prompt. Enter the following command: wmic path win32_computersystemproduct get UUID. The UUID for the device will now be displayed.Aug 29, 2024
How to find a device UUID - Splashtop Business - Support
Splashtop
https://support-splashtopbusiness.splashtop.com › articles
I suspect this is not it. That is "computer uuid".
Maybe here: <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/70770357/how-can-i-get-the-guid-of-my-disc-partitions>
There is a sample code using Delphi, and some possibilities using the Power Shell.
>
> Luckily, the $EDITORS on Android don't seem to have a problem using the
> Windows-assigned volume name (aka volume label); but it's an enigma.
>
> The enigma to resolve is nobody (yet) seems to know how Windows works in
> terms of changing the volume name (aka volume label), least of all me;
> likewise, with Android that nobody (yet) knows why this is happening, least
> of all me. I hate when I don't understand something. That irks me a lot.
The "label" command should be able to change the volume label.
>
> But it's likely there isn't an expert on this newsgroup who knows why.
>
> I'll ask on the forums why Android file managers display two volume names.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/v8z1hhKn/ghostcommander.jpg>
>
Apparently, some filemanagers "mount" using the label and others do using the uuid (and that would be the reason for having short uuids in Windows). Why they need to mount I don't understand, it should be the OS task.
Another possibility would be that Android mounts using both the label and the uuid, and the filemanager choose which to use.
> Thanks for your help (and for the help of others who valiantly tried).
Welcome.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 04:16 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 05:40 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 06:05 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 21:34 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 00:01 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-03 09:42 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 20:54 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-08 04:22 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:07 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 23:42 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 02:21 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 03:05 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-03 09:59 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 03:01 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-03 19:12 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-05 10:30 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-05 11:31 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-05 14:27 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-05 14:35 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-06 20:21 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 20:57 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-06 23:58 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 05:57 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-07 10:30 +0100
Editing binary data with editors - or is there no difference of text and binary? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-07 10:57 +0100
Re: Editing binary data with editors - or is there no difference of text and binary? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-07 11:44 +0100
Re: Editing binary data with editors - or is there no difference of text and binary? Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-07 14:39 +0100
Re: Editing binary data with editors - or is there no difference of text and binary? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-07 19:39 +0100
Re: Editing binary data with editors - or is there no difference of text and binary? Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 03:26 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 18:12 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 23:14 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-06 20:22 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 20:57 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-02-07 21:50 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-08 03:27 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 03:21 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:07 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-02 03:20 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-01 05:40 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-01 16:34 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-01 16:29 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-01 18:10 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 15:44 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-03 10:40 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 15:14 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 10:01 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 13:22 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 19:51 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 23:12 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 15:24 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:50 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 16:04 +0100
[meta] posting mistake Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 16:26 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-02 16:29 +0000
ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-02 16:37 +0000
Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-03 09:14 +0000
ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 15:16 +0100
Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:59 +0000
Re: ext4 on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 10:23 +0000
Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 22:48 +0000
Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:16 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:57 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 19:00 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 22:01 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-05 18:50 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 14:26 -0500
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:16 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-06 20:50 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:58 -0500
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-04 01:15 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-04 00:24 -0500
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-04 21:40 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-04 22:11 +0000
External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 02:24 +0100
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-04 22:06 -0500
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 04:41 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 04:43 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 02:10 -0500
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 17:40 +0100
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-05 18:50 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:11 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 20:59 -0500
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 03:04 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 22:48 -0500
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 21:00 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-06 16:20 -0500
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 22:42 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 00:44 -0500
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 06:00 +0000
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 17:38 +0100
Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:06 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:56 +0000
A little bit of discussion between Janis and me (Was: Stupid suggestion(s) for "portable" "memory" using Windows & Android "editors") gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-02 14:53 +0000
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 20:59 +0100
Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 22:54 +0000
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