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Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors

From Marion <marion@facts.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.editors
Subject Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors
Date 2025-02-01 18:10 +0000
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2025 16:34:03 +0100, Janis Papanagnou wrote :


> (I probably shouldn't engage in this thread - and not only because it
> got aggressive recently 

Kenny McCormack is the obvious off-topic troll whom you can thank for that.

When you throw out Kenny McCormack's trolling, you can then notice this
thread is about elegant planning, years ahead, for Windows playing a key
role in migrating Android editors from one device (or card) to another.

> - because it seems (partly?) a Windows issue,
> given the mention of 'C:', 'D:' 

The idea is brilliant - as it involves migrating Android file editors years
ahead of time using the key features that Windows possess.

> and such crap later in this thread;
> but I'm curious...)

Other than Kenny McCormack's purposefully unhelpful common trolling, there
is no 'crap' here.

In fact, there are 3 exquisitely related issues, which most people (likely)
don't realize (perhaps) because most people haven't (apparently) ever even
once in their lives bothered to plan years ahead for platform migration,
particularly how Windows plays a role in migrating Android editors.

> First, the above mentioned IDs have a purpose, I think; to uniquely
> *identify* a hardware device.[*] (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) -

In another post in this thread, outside of Kenny McCormack's childish
trolling that is, we covered in gory detail the 3 sd card identifiers,
their (stated) purpose & on which platforms you can change them.
 1. Volume ID (CID)
 2. Volume Serial Number
 3. Volume Name (aka Volume Label)

Bear in mind the enticing goal isn't to just change them, which I'm sure
everyone except that common troll understood, but to ensure a clean
migration years in the future for the files that Android editors edit.

> So it therefore sounds strange to change that ID in the first place.
> And therefore it wouldn't appear to me to re-label that device and
> even less to reformat the device just to change its "label".[**]

In stark contrast to Kenny McCormack's purposefully disruptive repetitive
attempts at common trolling, it's refreshing you are intelligently
inquiring as to WHY (almost) everyone who owns Android with an sdcard (&
who owns Windows plus a few Android editors) would greatly benefit from
changing the Volume Name (also well known completely interchangeably as the
Volume Label).

> What I typically see as "solution" - but which is rather more of a
> "concept" - is to use generic path components where you want them;
> on Unix-like systems you'd create for example a symbolic link like
>   /storage/generic -> /storage/A2B2-C2D2
> and generally access the files only through the generic link
>   /storage/generic/{editors}/{files}
> If you want to replace the storage device just re-link the generic
> link to the new device (and without any necessity to change device
> identity).

This was brought up prior, I think by Carlos if I remember correctly, where
I restrained myself from incredulously asking HOW he proposed to do that
symlinking on Android such that the all-important Android file editors
would still recognize a path that has completely changed out from under
them.

To be clear, I'm absolutely and emphatically NOT saying it can't be done; 
nor am I even intimating that it's not a great idea - I'm only asking, eyes
wide open with intrigue, HOW you (and Carlos) would accomplish that.

To put that in layman's terms:
Q: How do you make a symlink on Android such that swapping out a 64GB
   sd card with a 128GB sdcard won't affect where that Android editor
   "thinks" it stored its files (when the sdcard Volume Name/Label is 
   suddenly completely different)?
A: ?

If you can propose HOW I can test that out, I'd be glad to test it.
 a. Linux isn't the question (ln -s [target] [symlink])
 b. Neither is Windows (mklink [[/D] | [/H] | [/J]] <Link> <Target>)
 c. The problem is non-root Android symlinks are problematic, are they not?

> (I'm not sure this is "clever" or "helpful" (as your suggestion is,
> according to your subject), but it appears much more sensible to me.
> Isn't that possible on Windows and Android to preserve portability?)

I like the idea of a non-root Android symlink, and, rest assured, that's
actually the very first idea that popped into my head (as it did for yours
and for Carlos' apparently). 

So we all leaning toward what may be a rather profound global solution.
But the problem with creating symlinks on non-rooted Android is well known.

Android apps can usually create symlinks within their own data directories, 
so if you know of such Android file editors, please let us all know.

But symlinking inside of every Android file editor isn't really elegant.
For a more global elegant solution, certainly we could strive to use "the
ln -s command in the adb shell, but that's fraught with difficulties due to
Android file system restrictions, especially in areas like /system or /data
which have strict permissions preventing symlinks in protected areas.

> [*] I, and the OS, should actually have an interest to know whether
> there's another (or new) device in the system.

Ah. You bring up an excellent (and rather astute) intelligent point as to
WHY the sd card happens to have three different identifiers, by default!

Bearing in mind that there are 3 identifiers of merit in this discussion
 1. Volume ID (CID) is assigned by the OEM & is not changeable by the user
 2. Volume Serial Number is uniquely created during the formatting process
 3. Volume Name (aka Volume Label) is *intended* to be changed by the user

Certainly, it's well known that the Serial Number is the primary identifier
that the operating system is "expected" to know about & take into account.

And just as certainly, the whole point of the Volume Name (aka Volume
Label) is to perform the elegant task that was initially suggested in this
thread.

Note you can change the Volume Serial Number, but I'm not aware of an
Android editor that makes use of that Volume Serial Number, so why do it?

> [**] A quick browse of the Net shows that you could [on Windows] also
> just simply change that label by context menu 'properties'.

Let's be abundantly clear that we're not changing things simply for the
sake of changing them - but we're planning ahead - years ahead in fact -
for a migration so that Android editors can find their files which are
stored on sd cards when (years from now) you double your sd card size.

In summary, the only "thing" we want to change, is the thing that matters.
 a. Not the Volume ID (aka CID), which is used at the hardware level
 b. Not the Serial Number, which is sort of a "partition" identifier
 c. But the Volume Name, which is used at the file-explorer & editor level

Having stated the elegance of changing the only thing that matters to the
Android editors (which need to find files on the sd card), I agree if you
can figure out how to symlink on non-root Android, you'd have all my
respect (as that's an elegant task that I haven't yet been able to do!).

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                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 00:01 +0000
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                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:07 +0100
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 23:42 +0000
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                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 03:05 +0000
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            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 15:14 +0100
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 10:01 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 13:22 +0100
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 19:51 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-04 23:12 +0100
      Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 15:24 +0100
        Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:50 +0100
          Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 16:04 +0100
            [meta] posting mistake Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-02 16:26 +0100
            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-02 16:29 +0000
              ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-02 16:37 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2025-02-03 09:14 +0000
              ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-03 15:16 +0100
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:59 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 10:23 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-04 22:48 +0000
                Re: ext4 on Android (Was: blah, blah, blah...) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-25 23:16 +0100
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:57 +0000
            Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-03 19:00 +0000
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 22:01 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-05 18:50 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 14:26 -0500
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:16 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-06 20:50 +0000
              Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-03 19:58 -0500
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-04 01:15 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-04 00:24 -0500
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-04 21:40 +0000
                Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-04 22:11 +0000
              External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 02:24 +0100
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-04 22:06 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 04:41 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-05 04:43 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 02:10 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 17:40 +0100
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-02-05 18:50 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:11 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 20:59 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 03:04 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-05 22:48 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 21:00 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-06 16:20 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 22:42 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-07 00:44 -0500
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-07 06:00 +0000
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2025-02-05 17:38 +0100
                Re: External media file systems (was Re: ...) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-06 00:06 +0000
          Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-03 21:56 +0000
        A little bit of discussion between Janis and me (Was: Stupid    suggestion(s) for "portable" "memory" using Windows & Android "editors") gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2025-02-02 14:53 +0000
    Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 20:59 +0100
  Re: Clever helpful suggestion for portable memory using Windows & Android editors Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-02-02 22:54 +0000

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