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Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices

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On 2025-07-07, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-07-07 10:42, Marion wrote:
>> Topic: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices
>> Why: Because it's a privacy issue of what others can do with your phone.
>> 
>> I'm always curious what LE can do with your phone in their hands,
>> where, in criminal cases, we get good records, under oath, of capability.
>> 
>> In this case, four factory resets still enabled police to recover photos.
>> Two of those factory resets occurred *after* the police confiscated it!
>> 
>> This, in the BBC news today, shows that factory resetting your phone
>> doesn't necessarily make the images stored on that phone, not recoverable.
>> 
>>   *The evidence in Erin Patterson's mushroom murder trial*
>>   <https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdx5e9dldqwo>
>>   "Forensic experts were also able to recover images on her mobile
>>    showing what looked like death cap mushrooms on weighing scales."
>> 
>> When I saw that, I immediately thought using the word "recover" means she
>> factory reset it, where running a few searches confirms multiple resets!
>
> Why would you immediately think that?
>
> "Recover" in this context could simply mean they weren't given the pass 
> code.
>
>> 
>> Two of the 4 factory resets occurred while the phone was in police custody!
>> 
>> The Nightly reports that four factory resets were performed on one of
>> Patterson's devices in 2023, including a remote wipe on August 6,
>> which is the day *after* she handed the phone to police.
>>   *Text messages and factory resets revealed in Mushroom triple murder trial*
>> <https://thenightly.com.au/australia/i-want-nothing-to-do-with-them-text-messages-and-factory-resets-revealed-in-mushroom-triple-murder-trial-c-18784538>
>
> But those resets were NOT done to the phone from which they recovered 
> the photos. The article says precisely that:
>
> 'Four factory resets of one device, mushroom photos on another'
>
> For a "man" who claims he only posts facts, you sure miss a lot.
>
>> 
>> Additionally, news in Australia cite specific court testimony & judicial
>> summaries confirming that Patterson carried out 3 of the 4 factory resets
>> herself, and that these resets were part of the prosecution's argument
>> that she was attempting to conceal evidence (some of which they recovered).
>>   *Mushroom cook's incriminating conduct: Court*
>>   <https://au.news.yahoo.com/mushroom-jury-must-ignore-sympathy-011933987.html>
>
> There is no support in that article for the contention that the photos 
> were recovered from the reset device.
>
> None.
>
>> 
>>   *Judge in Erin Patterson's mushroom trial gives final instructions to the jury*
>>   <https://7news.com.au/news/judge-in-erin-pattersons-mushroom-trial-gives-final-instructions-to-the-jury-as-accused-triple-murderers-case-wraps-up-c-19158299>
>> 
>> On the topic of wiping out your phone, were you aware resets don't work?
>
> Again, literally not a word about data being recovered from a phone that 
> had been reset.

Little Marion strikes out yet again... Pathetic troll.

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Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-07 14:42 +0000
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-07-07 17:16 +0000
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-07-07 21:37 +0000
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-07 18:34 -0400
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Dan Druff <dan@the.keyboard> - 2025-07-08 15:11 +0000
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2025-07-09 07:14 +0200
      Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:57 +0200
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-07 18:34 -0400
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-07-09 11:50 +0200
    Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-07-09 16:32 +0000
  Re: Criminals whose evidence against them are their mobile devices Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-07-24 00:21 +0000

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